Taking requests for airports to add to Sim2
#21
Posted 05 December 2008 - 03:40 PM
Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport
Pax Count: 1,200,122 in 2007 (from http://www.nwara.com.../statistics.asp)
Runway Length: 8,800 Ft
Lat. 36.2818694, Long. -94.3068111
IATA: XNA
IACO: KXNA
Would be served by DFW, IAH, ATL, ORD
Another I thought of...
Lubbock Smith International Airport
Pax Count: 1,129,000 in 2006 (http://www.azworldai...ts/a2740lbb.cfm)
Runway Length: 11,500 Ft
Lat. 33.6636389, Long. -101.8227778
IATA: LBB
IACO: KLBB
Served by DFW, DEN, possibly PHX
#22
Posted 06 December 2008 - 07:25 AM
Here is one I think might qualify to add to the game....
Northwest Arkansas Regional Airport
Lubbock Smith International Airport
Ok, I'll do both of those for you...
You should be able to do them from ORD, ATL, and maybe DFW but only after the updated numbers are done... those are really small airports (at least they're small for the way the game is set up)... gate rent about 80-85,000 in the game. I don't think IAH will be big enough and certainly not PHX.
#23
Posted 07 December 2008 - 05:15 AM
#24
Posted 07 December 2008 - 05:29 AM
#25
Posted 07 December 2008 - 09:47 AM
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Harlingen, TX HRL
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
McAllen, TX MFE
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Midland Odessa, TX MAF
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Islip, NY ISP
http://en.wikipedia....cArthur_Airport
Atlantic City, NJ ACY
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Charleston, WV CRW
http://en.wikipedia..../Yeager_Airport
Veracruz, MEX VER
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
#26
Posted 07 December 2008 - 11:57 AM
Can we check the coordinates for Cork, Ireland (ORK)? On the route map it shows up in the ocean between South America and Africa.
Ill fix that up for Tobias tomorrow.
If anymore, just shoot me a pm and i can find the right co-ordinates for Tobias to input into the game, to finally fix the issues with them.
#27
Posted 07 December 2008 - 11:58 AM
Amarillo, TX AMA
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Harlingen, TX HRL
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
McAllen, TX MFE
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Midland Odessa, TX MAF
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Islip, NY ISP
http://en.wikipedia....cArthur_Airport
Atlantic City, NJ ACY
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
Charleston, WV CRW
http://en.wikipedia..../Yeager_Airport
Veracruz, MEX VER
http://en.wikipedia....ational_Airport
As mentioned in my second entrry to this thread, ISP was the first special request airport I did... its already submitted... just waiting for Tobias to add it to the database when he gets a few spare minutes.
For the others... I can also look up airports on Wikipedia all day long, but thats's not what I'm looking for here. Only about half of those listed have annual passenger data in the wikipedia article... that is the #1 criteria to determine if the airports are worth adding or not. Of the few that did mention pax data, there was only 1 over 1,000,000 that that's really the minimum that I can consider worthwhile for adding in most cases.
I'm really glad that everyone is getting involved and submitting requests, but I really want some homework done by the requestor first. Passenger numbers should be the bare minimum you provide me with a valid reference for that # (Wikipedia itself isn't a valid reference, anyone can edit that to suit their own needs... there should be a reference at the bottom of the wikipedia page to an official source, please use that source)
If someone makes a truely good faith effort to find passenger numbers and just can't find them the that's ok... If you can say hey... this ABC airport seems to me that it gets just as much traffic as XYZ airport but I can't find the data then there's a good chance I have the numbers in a database, but please at least let me know that you spent more than 30 seconds trying to find it before submitting it.
Having said that, I will work on ACY (Atlantic City, NJ) and include it with my next batch. Though the annual pax have actually been declining since the wikipedia data was done and in 2006 (most recent data I have) it was just under 1,000,000. Its close enough I'll do it anyway, it should work from a select few very large eastern USA airports later when the USA numbers are all updated.
Thanks
Fish
EDIT:
For what its worth... this is why I want the submitor to do some homework on these first:
AMA = 916,456
HRL = 885,676
MFE = 983,694
MAF = 827,386
CRW = 571,638
VER = 770,103
None of these make 1,000,000 minimum. MFE is close, I may consider that one after I review new #'s for IAH and DFW.
#28
Posted 07 December 2008 - 05:14 PM
As mentioned in my second entrry to this thread, ISP was the first special request airport I did... its already submitted... just waiting for Tobias to add it to the database when he gets a few spare minutes.
And ISP is much appreciated. I've been waiting for a long time for this one. Thanks!
#29
Posted 08 December 2008 - 01:38 AM
HRL = 885,676
MFE = 983,694
MAF = 827,386
CRW = 571,638
VER = 770,103
All of these are served by reputable airlines, the Texas ones from Continental, American, and southwest; VER from Continental and several Mexican airlines; CRW is served by Continental, US airways, and others. Some of the planes used are B737s, ERJ-145s, and A320s. There is a huge blank space over central and west Texas and no cities in WV. I think we should "plug the holes".
I thought I was helping by suggesting these and looking them up. I could have just said Amarillo, Brownsville, Lake Charles, etc...all of which are served by multiple airlines, but Brownsville and Lake Charles are obviously too small for the game. AMA. MFE, etc should all work from IAH and DFW, maybe even DEN, MEX, or SAT.
#30
Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:33 AM
#31
Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:50 AM
So when are these Airports being added?
Many have been submitted to Tobias already including your Australian airports. They'll be added as soon as he has time to merge them into the database.
#32
Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:50 AM
#33
Posted 08 December 2008 - 09:55 AM
All of these are served by reputable airlines, the Texas ones from Continental, American, and southwest; VER from Continental and several Mexican airlines; CRW is served by Continental, US airways, and others. Some of the planes used are B737s, ERJ-145s, and A320s. There is a huge blank space over central and west Texas and no cities in WV. I think we should "plug the holes".
I agree, there are many places with holes that aren't covered well in the game but it does no good to fill the holes just for the sake of filling them. These airports aren't going to be profitable in the game. I know in real life they are decent little airports with flights to multiple hubs but the LF script in the game isn't up to snuff yet and these small airports only produce losses.
Just to prove what I'm saying, buy a gate somewhere with a rent of about $70,000, that will be similar in size to your airports above... let me know what results you get from IAH and DFW or similarly sized airports in the game. In my experience you can't make enough revenue to pay just the gate rent on airports less than about $85,000 in gate rent from some pretty decently size hub airports.
#34
Posted 08 December 2008 - 12:49 PM
I would like to suggest an airport in Taipei, it's mainly for domestic flights in Taiwan and also a few international flights. Thanks for your kindly help.:shappy:
Taipei Sungshan Airport (TSA)
Annual Pax: 4,470,859
Runway Length: 8547 ft
Country: Taiwan
Coordinates: 25°4′10″N 121°33′6″E[1]
Another Taipei airport already in AE (TPE) is for international flights, the official name is "Taiwan Taoyuan Airport"[2].
Ref:
[1]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taipei_Songshan_Airport
[2]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan_Taoyuan_International_Airport
#35
Posted 08 December 2008 - 11:13 PM
#36
Posted 09 December 2008 - 12:06 AM
theres bRest in vrittney west france flybe and ryanair fly there fulll loads everytime i fly
For everyone information, i was the one looking after the European airports and every airport over 1 mil pax per annum was added into the game. I just need to get the coordinates to Tobias tonight, so they get included into the game.
#37
Posted 09 December 2008 - 02:22 AM
Oran Es Senia Airport (ORN)
Annual Pax: From what I found, approxiamatly 700,000 (1)
Runway length: 10,039
Country: Algeria
Coordinates: 35°37'26"N, 0°37'16"W (2)
1 Im sorry I can find the source... but according to various websites they say aroun 1 million passengers go through it annually
2 GCM
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Marrakech-Menara Airport (RAK)
Annual Pax: 3,050,916 (1)
Runway length: 10,170
Country: Morocco
Coordinates: 31°36'24.79" N, 008°02'10.68" W (2)
(1) Wiki and official site of Marrakech
(2) GCM
#38
Posted 09 December 2008 - 07:06 AM
theres bRest in vrittney west france flybe and ryanair fly there fulll loads everytime i fly
For everyone information, i was the one looking after the European airports and every airport over 1 mil pax per annum was added into the game. I just need to get the coordinates to Tobias tonight, so they get included into the game.
Brest just isn't big enough. Its roughly 650,000 annual pax now. I know it probably works well for Ryanair, but it takes several airlines to transport over 1,000,000 pax to/from airports... I don't see Ryanair doing that alone.
I went through all the European data I could find easily and there were a couple included in my list that I sent to Tobias already. There weren't many over 1,000,000 that weren't already in the game. Having said that, my data isn't all encompasing. If you can provide reputable data for airports than Maestro and I have missed then we'll go with it.
#39
Posted 09 December 2008 - 07:26 AM
Hi,
I would like to suggest an airport in Taipei, it's mainly for domestic flights in Taiwan and also a few international flights. Thanks for your kindly help.:shappy:
Taipei Sungshan Airport (TSA)
Annual Pax: 4,470,859
Runway Length: 8547 ft
Country: Taiwan
Coordinates: 25°4′10″N 121°33′6″E[1]
Another Taipei airport already in AE (TPE) is for international flights, the official name is "Taiwan Taoyuan Airport"[2].
I've thought I looked at TSA already but thank you for providing such detailed info. I thought it was much smaller than it is... I wish this airport handled more international flights, its so much more convienent to downtown than Touyuan. I will add this in my next list. This will be one to watch for updates in the next year or two as they are supposed to add cross-straits flights at TSA.
I also had thoughts of adding Taizhong 台中 (Taichung depending on who's romanization you use) but I think it'll be too small.
#40
Posted 09 December 2008 - 09:00 PM
Brest just isn't big enough. Its roughly 650,000 annual pax now. I know it probably works well for Ryanair, but it takes several airlines to transport over 1,000,000 pax to/from airports... I don't see Ryanair doing that alone.
I went through all the European data I could find easily and there were a couple included in my list that I sent to Tobias already. There weren't many over 1,000,000 that weren't already in the game. Having said that, my data isn't all encompasing. If you can provide reputable data for airports than Maestro and I have missed then we'll go with it.
Not sure what report your reading, but Brest in 2007 got around 870k annual passengers (and thats according to the ADF in France). I added into the game because it may make some money... but it will never be a goldmine. Probably do well from the big 5-6 airports in Europe...
And thought u were just doing US fish?? i mean, i already did Europe over a week ago.
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