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[Nat.]

Title says it all 

[Airboss777]

I'll swap you my spamliner for your Mile High Club membership.

[zipp]

High chance that if you complain about spamliners, you run one

[RubberDuckGaming]

Why?

[TNT88]

How about a website with no Losers who keep complaining about spamliners? 

[Nouroog]

Actually, S1 world (One Hub/terminal Limit ) is close to what you request.

[RubberDuckGaming]

Actually, S1 world (One Hub/terminal Limit ) is close to what you request.

I have successfully spamlined in that world before, although it is more difficult. You need to be in an alliance with airlines hubbed in your home country close to your hub, so there is a luck element. And of course you have a limited number of gates at each airport so that limits how far you can go.

[zipp]

guy just cannot handle people playing the game, love it

[Nat.]

I'll swap you my spamliner for your Mile High Club membership.

Ha, you got to earn that one😉

[Lux CEO]

I feel you, I was all excited to finally get first place (Valuation) in S2 after working so long for years, then a spamliner popped up and is likely going to overtake me 

[TNT88]

I feel you, I was all excited to finally get first place (Valuation) in S2 after working so long for years, then a spamliner popped up and is likely going to overtake me 

 

But you also run unrealistic spamliners. You can't get mad at others for doing the same thing you do.

 

You Alaskan Airlines operate 213 B747-400, alongside 334 A300-600R, and 335 A340-400.

 

None of those scenario would be realistic in real life. 50 B747-400 maybe, but not 213.

[Lux CEO]

But you also run unrealistic spamliners. You can't get mad at others for doing the same thing you do.

 

You Alaskan Airlines operate 213 B747-400, alongside 334 A300-600R, and 335 A340-400.

 

None of those scenario would be realistic in real life. 50 B747-400 maybe, but not 213.

Yes, I do like to operate large capacity planes, but I consider a spamliner to be someone flying hundreds of frequencies well in excess of demand (1 demand with 24,000 capacity), usually between hubs. I never grossly exceed demand and I'm a little offended you think that of me lol. God forbid I put a 747 on a daily route between cities with 500 pax demand. The demand is always there for my 747's   But we could sit here are argue all day about what a spamliner is. I respect your opinion.

[TNT88]

Yes, I do like to operate large capacity planes, but I consider a spamliner to be someone flying hundreds of frequencies well in excess of demand (1 demand with 24,000 capacity), usually between hubs. I never grossly exceed demand and I'm a little offended you think that of me lol. God forbid I put a 747 on a daily route between cities with 500 pax demand. The demand is always there for my 747's   But we could sit here are argue all day about what a spamliner is. I respect your opinion.

 

Actually, my definition of Spamliners is the correct definition. The owner and the admins of this website would agree with me.

 

There are differences between Realistic Airlines that uses Widebodies on shorter routes (Emirates with their A380 on regional middle eastern flights or Japanese domestic B747 routes because of congestion on their local airport) Vs. yours.

 

Most airlines, especially in the US, would rather fly smaller planes like B757 and A321, or even A310, A300, A330 and B767 back in the day on some major routes instead of B747. Some do on occasion, but they wouldn't have hundreds of B747 A300 and A340 on their fleet.

 

The other factor that confirmed that your airlines is a Spamliners is the fact that the daily utilization rate for your aircrafts is close to 19 hours per day. Most widebodies have daily utilization rates of 12-13 hours for longer flights, and less than 12 hours for shorter regional or domestic flights.

 

So yes, we all could confirmed that your airlines is a Spamliners.

[Lux CEO]

Actually, my definition of Spamliners is the correct definition. The owner and the admins of this website would agree with me.

 

There are differences between Realistic Airlines that uses Widebodies on shorter routes (Emirates with their A380 on regional middle eastern flights or Japanese domestic B747 routes because of congestion on their local airport) Vs. yours.

 

Most airlines, especially in the US, would rather fly smaller planes like B757 and A321, or even A310, A300, A330 and B767 back in the day on some major routes instead of B747. Some do on occasion, but they wouldn't have hundreds of B747 A300 and A340 on their fleet.

 

The other factor that confirmed that your airlines is a Spamliners is the fact that the daily utilization rate for your aircrafts is close to 19 hours per day. Most widebodies have daily utilization rates of 12-13 hours for longer flights, and less than 12 hours for shorter regional or domestic flights.

 

So yes, we all could confirmed that your airlines is a Spamliners.

Meh, we can agree to disagree. I'll just stay off the forums, not as welcoming as I thought.

[TNT88]

Meh, we can agree to disagree. I'll just stay off the forums, not as welcoming as I thought.

 

Well, you have to take that disagreement with the owner and the admins. I'm just here to reiterate the meaning of spamliners. I'm not the one who came up with the definition, sorry.

[Extraordinary1]

Well, you have to take that disagreement with the owner and the admins. I'm just here to reiterate the meaning of spamliners. I'm not the one who came up with the definition, sorry.

I would like to disagree with the meaning that you have. The definition of a term can be redefined, I believe spamliners are airlines that grossly abuse demand, to the point that it is unrealistic—such as your airline. As unrealistic as Alaska Airlines having 200+ 747s, I do not believe it is a spamliner. 

[zipp]

I would like to disagree with the meaning that you have. The definition of a term can be redefined, I believe spamliners are airlines that grossly abuse demand, to the point that it is unrealistic—such as your airline. As unrealistic as Alaska Airlines having 200+ 747s, I do not believe it is a spamliner.

Ok but the likelihood of an airline having 200 747s in Alaska and being quality is rather low

[TNT88]

I would like to disagree with the meaning that you have. The definition of a term can be redefined, I believe spamliners are airlines that grossly abuse demand, to the point that it is unrealistic—such as your airline. As unrealistic as Alaska Airlines having 200+ 747s, I do not believe it is a spamliner. 

 

With due respect, as I stated before. His airlines owns 337 A300-600R, 338 A340-300, 215 B747-400, 256 B767-300ER, 125 B777-200ER, alongside thousands of other aircrafts. Not just 200 B747-400. Seems like you try to minimize his mistake by cherry picking the data available to the public.

 

Let's get the fact straight, the largest airlines by passengers carried in real world before the pandemic is Delta with 215,200,000 passengers in 2019. His Alaska airlines in game carry 740,366,784 passengers.

That is 3.4 Times larger than the largest airlines in the world pre pandemic.

 

Largest airlines in the world by number of planes is American Airlines Group with 934 (mainline) and 562 (regional). So his airlines have almost double the amount of fleet the largest airlines group own.

 

Again, in real life, on average, widebody aircraft have utilization rate of 13 hours per day. Most of his widebody have utilization rate closer to 18-19 hours per day. Which is extremely unrealistic.

Utilization rate for narrowbody tend to be lower, sometimes could be lower than 10 hours per day since they spend less time in the air because of they operate more landing and take off cycles every day compared to long haul widebody aircraft.

 

Spamliners also mean you are spamming the routes with unrealistic number of aircrafts utilization and aircraft types without taking any account and consideration for slots availability, frequency or its effects on demands.

 

We haven't even touch the subjects of Unrealistic destinations choices. Non-stop direct flights from Maldives to 13 different US cities?