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AE Version 3.1.0 Beta
Open World
1960 - 1990
Speed: 3 days / hour

 

How can this airline be so large, just 4 years into the game? It ruins every fun in the game for people who are actually trying to build an airline fairly....

http://ae31.airline-...ae3o2&player=11



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Oh my
4 years and it is that big?!
My airline has been only up for 3 years and it has 200 aircraft
This airline is 1 year ahead and has 600 aircraft?!
I suspect an exploit or they just have very good strategy by ordering many different kinds of aircraft, as if you see the production rate of aircraft in 1960 is actually quite high and with some big aircraft being produced at just 1 week

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It happens because leasing is dirt cheap. My world is in its 11th month, Year 1 and there's a guy with 117 aircraft, threatening my #1 position. He is highly resourceful, sourcing aircraft simultaneously from 15 production lines. His early strategy was to order 1 aircraft from as many production lines as possible. This is very aggressive and time-consuming but it's all legitimate.


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Well im currently active in (Ra) with 5 Friends and together we build the Alliance GenAir.

So at the start of the world we even were 9 or 10 Airlines but some just didnt want anymore even tho they had big Airlines.

Currently I have 786 Airplanes after 5 years so its a mixture of strategy (getting all kind of planes for every type of route) and luck (used aircraft market).

I gotta be honest such things are really annoying but its all about having the best strategy and about having fun. ^^

 

Sorry for my bad english if there are any mistakes, I'm from Austria. :')



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Yeah this is totally possible with leasing and near max configurations. Especially if he started at an airport with low competition. 



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That's not the biggest airline in O2, but he's playing well. Sort of. The high number of orders is due to leasing, which is affordable if you want to spend all your cash.

 

What concerns do you have about it specifically, & why do you feel it's unfair? Message me directly if you want to talk about it & maybe I can help you.



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It is also possible that he is going on routes with little to no competition and raising the prices so he has all blue pax and is making a lot of money. This is happening in O1 with the top 2 and I don't mind because when the competition eventually comes they might lose that. 



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Don't worry about it they will get bored and close their airline or leave it dormant. Play your own game.

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also going after all the used planes available on the market.


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I don't have a problem with the size of the airlines per sé, but sometimes when I start a route and am the only one on it, someone just bombard the route with such a tremendous over-capacity that nobody could earn a dime from it anymore...

If that's their interpretation of fun, so be it...I don't care...



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I don't have a problem with the size of the airlines per sé, but sometimes when I start a route and am the only one on it, someone just bombard the route with such a tremendous over-capacity that nobody could earn a dime from it anymore...

If that's their interpretation of fun, so be it...I don't care...

 

I only flood a route when someone comes in and puts 3x the demand on a route that is basically already full. I will still almost always make money, and get to mess with a bad spammer.



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It's an exploit that involves opening, expanding, and closing a terminal over and over 



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May not be just leasing is cheap. I just ordered some more 757 it O1 and when the delivery schedule for Boeing showed up ,as it does ,one airline had 8 757's and 4 767-300ers all being delivered on May 11th, how is this possible? 



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^Deferred deliveries


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Firstly, let me point out that none of this makes a blind bit of difference to your end position - but it's a fun self-contained problem.

 

There is one limiting factor at the start of the game: cash. (The number of leases allowed by your credit rating means you can't take out too many bonds, but that's essentially still a limit on the amount of cash available. Make sure you have a positive balance at month-end(?) and on the day you make your bond payments, so your credit rating grows as fast as possible.)

 

If you want to grow as fast as possible at the start, that means thinking about how to make your cash as productive as possible in the early stages.

 

Your cash isn't productive while it's waiting for deliveries to start, and that double-build-time for the first plane means ordering 3-week planes ties up your cash for 6 weeks before you see any return. If you order 1-week planes instead, you'll have 3+2+1 weeks of income before the first 3-week plane is even delivered (assuming you allocate them right away).

 

The other thing to consider early on when choosing which models to order is the produced passenger-capacity per week for each plane. A small plane delivered once a week may give you more passenger-capacity than a larger plane delivered 2- or 3-weekly.



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someone just bombard the route with such a tremendous over-capacity that nobody could earn a dime from it anymore...

 

 

As far as I know, if someone's using mega-prices and getting all-blues, that doesn't affect the regular traffic. It's only if they have normal pricing it makes it harder for other players, because then they take some of the greens. 






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