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There are some airlines who basically lease the whole airport which only has 10-20 gates. This is very unfair for players not from that country. And moreover it is in Realistic Worlds. Shouldn’t there be a 50% gate limit imposed? Amritsar and Pune are great targets for this very evil and unfair strategy to drive away competition. I am not trying to criticise people here but if I do I am sorry.

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There are some airlines who basically lease the whole airport which only has 10-20 gates. This is very unfair for players not from that country. And moreover it is in Realistic Worlds. Shouldn’t there be a 50% gate limit imposed? Amritsar and Pune are great targets for this very evil and unfair strategy to drive away competition. I am not trying to criticise people here but if I do I am sorry.

 

In real life, Airlines like British Airway holds majority of the gates in London Heathrow, JAL and ANA holds majority in Haneda and Narita. This is extremely realistic in real life. Putting 50% restrictions would make the game unrealistic. 



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But if you see, airlines can be friendly and share gates so when they have spare time on the gates that they don’t use then they allow other airlines to use it but for a fee
Isn’t that more friendly?

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There are some airlines who basically lease the whole airport which only has 10-20 gates. This is very unfair for players not from that country. And moreover it is in Realistic Worlds. Shouldn’t there be a 50% gate limit imposed? Amritsar and Pune are great targets for this very evil and unfair strategy to drive away competition. I am not trying to criticise people here but if I do I am sorry.

You do have a point, as this does come across as quite unfair, though if the airport in question is very expensive to build a terminal at, it may be the only way they are able to continue to expand at a decent rate if that airport happened to be their hub.

 

In real life, Airlines like British Airway holds majority of the gates in London Heathrow, JAL and ANA holds majority in Haneda and Narita. This is extremely realistic in real life. Putting 50% restrictions would make the game unrealistic. 

What you're saying is also a very good point, as airports will usually be dominated by a single airline, though not to the extent where it turns into a complete monopoly. However, I think the main point of this topic wasn't for those large hub airports with many gates, as airlines are only able to lease up to 5 gates at an airport in realistic worlds (15 if a hub). This means that at airports with 15 gates or less an airline could easily just lease out the airport. I'd say that the ideal situation to this would be to put a percentage limit on gate leasing for these smaller airports, which is the standard system used on the open worlds.

 

However, I wouldn't expect anything like this to be implemented soon, as if the game were ever to be developed further there would probably be things of much higher priority than this.



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There are some airlines who basically lease the whole airport which only has 10-20 gates. This is very unfair for players not from that country. And moreover it is in Realistic Worlds. Shouldn’t there be a 50% gate limit imposed? Amritsar and Pune are great targets for this very evil and unfair strategy to drive away competition. I am not trying to criticise people here but if I do I am sorry.

I've noticed in the past that this is an issue more so at SOME larger airports IRL that only have 50-60 gates in game. I think that AE should put more gates at these airports so that more airlines that aren't based in this country can operate flights there. 

OR

 

 airlines can sublease gates so when they have spare time on the gates that they don’t use then they allow other airlines to use it for a fee. 



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Remember, Oman Air Paid $75,000,000 for a morning slots in Heathrow from Air France-KLM for extra flights to Heathrow.

 

Let that sink in.

 

 

My suggestions. An Airlines should be able to hoarding as much gates as they want, this is the most realistic scenario. 



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Remember, Oman Air Paid $75,000,000 for a morning slots in Heathrow from Air France-KLM for extra flights to Heathrow.

 

Let that sink in.

 

 

My suggestions. An Airlines should be able to hoarding as much gates as they want, this is the most realistic scenario.

 

Some of the slot prices are absolutely absurd at major airports and I tbh I can see why your idea a good idea, but if you wanted realism then that'd mean any slots not used would be sold to another airline like irl. However, in AE the same airline can instantly lease back the gates straight after they are handed back due to lack of use, so that's what created the issue raised at the start of this thread.



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Remember, Oman Air Paid $75,000,000 for a morning slots in Heathrow from Air France-KLM for extra flights to Heathrow.

 

Let that sink in.

 

 

My suggestions. An Airlines should be able to hoarding as much gates as they want, this is the most realistic scenario. 

But this is a game. It should balance realism with fun. 



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But this is a game. It should balance realism with fun. 

 

That's why Spamliners should be allowed and promoted as a way to run airlines. 



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That's why Spamliners should be allowed and promoted as a way to run airlines. 

 

Allowed, perhaps. Promoted? No. On the contrary, spamliners need far more disincentives than they have at the moment. For starters they should face more realistic consequences for trying to cram a 777-300 configuration into an A330-200 and running a scam IFS - i.e. no one will dream of flying with that airline unless they're absolutely dirt cheap.


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Allowed, perhaps. Promoted? No. On the contrary, spamliners need far more disincentives than they have at the moment. For starters they should face more realistic consequences for trying to cram a 777-300 configuration into an A330-200 and running a scam IFS - i.e. no one will dream of flying with that airline unless they're absolutely dirt cheap.

 

Impossible. B777-300 have maximum certified capacity of 550 passengers. While A330-200 only certified to carry maximum of 406 passengers.
Many real life LCC kill off many Full service airlines around the world. From India, Indonesia, EU, even the US.


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Impossible. B777-300 have maximum certified capacity of 550 passengers. While A330-200 only certified to carry maximum of 406 passengers.
Many real life LCC kill off many Full service airlines around the world. From India, Indonesia, EU, even the US.

 

 

So show me one example of a real-world airline configuring an A330-200 with 7F 49C 308Y.


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So show me one example of a real-world airline configuring an A330-200 with 7F 49C 308Y.

 

I can't, and I don't need to since according to AE, players allowed to fitted the aircraft with any configurations as long as it doesn't exceed the exit limitations in real life.

 

Show me one example of a real-world airlines operating TU-214, CRJ-900ER, E190, A320's, A330, A340, A350, A380, B747, B777, B787 in real life. (Your airlines)

 

If you can't prove it, then you are a hypocrite for demanding realism even though YOU ARE creating UNREALISTIC airlines in this game.

 

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As much as I disagree with his playing tactics, TNT88 is entirely correct (except for the idea that spamliners should be "promoted"). Although gate leasing restrictions should be imposed, 50% is a bit too low.


 

 

 

 

 

 

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I can't, and I don't need to since according to AE, players allowed to fitted the aircraft with any configurations as long as it doesn't exceed the exit limitations in real life.

 

Show me one example of a real-world airlines operating TU-214, CRJ-900ER, E190, A320's, A330, A340, A350, A380, B747, B777, B787 in real life. (Your airlines)

 

If you can't prove it, then you are a hypocrite for demanding realism even though YOU ARE creating UNREALISTIC airlines in this game.

 

You are welcome.

 

Plenty come pretty close! Qatar Airways flies most of those, only doesn't fly the Tupolevs, 747s and everything smaller than the A319-100LR. BA only doesn't have the Tupolevs, CRJs and A330s/A340s (A350-1000s will soon be delivered). Lufthansa only doesn't fly the Tupolevs, 777s and Dreamliners (which I didn't actually want to go for originally but decided I needed to accelerate the retirement of the older A340s - as most real-world airlines other than Lufthansa decided they needed to do!)

 

Compared to the real-world Emirates fleet, consisting of over 100 A380s and just over 150 777s, mine doesn't exactly look entirely out of this world!

 

And while in other circumstances I may thank you for welcoming me, here I must observe that it was hardly necessary.

 

Oh and by the way, I have now completed the phasing out of the Tu-214 (you know, like airlines often do phase out older aircraft).


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As much as I disagree with his playing tactics, TNT88 is entirely correct (except for the idea that spamliners should be "promoted"). Although gate leasing restrictions should be imposed, 50% is a bit too low.

 

I didn't say players should be banned from playing that way. I said they should find it a bit more difficult than they currently do to take traffic away from competing airlines offering more realistic seating layouts/IFS. At the moment a spamliner can rock up and take away maybe 50% of an existing airline's traffic, even if they only undercut that airline's prices ever so slightly, or sometimes not at all.

 

As for gate leasing, I think the idea of sub-leasing unused gate slots would be a good one.


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Plenty come pretty close! Qatar Airways flies most of those, only doesn't fly the Tupolevs, 747s and everything smaller than the A319-100LR. BA only doesn't have the Tupolevs, CRJs and A330s/A340s (A350-1000s will soon be delivered). Lufthansa only doesn't fly the Tupolevs, 777s and Dreamliners (which I didn't actually want to go for originally but decided I needed to accelerate the retirement of the older A340s - as most real-world airlines other than Lufthansa decided they needed to do!)

 

Compared to the real-world Emirates fleet, consisting of over 100 A380s and just over 150 777s, mine doesn't exactly look entirely out of this world!

 

And while in other circumstances I may thank you for welcoming me, here I must observe that it was hardly necessary.

 

Oh and by the way, I have now completed the phasing out of the Tu-214 (you know, like airlines often do phase out older aircraft).

 

Your Airline look entirely out of this world. 

Aire Catalunya is a joke. You operate 146 B747-8i. And 52 A380. No real airlines in the world operate more than 50 B747-8i.

 

Emirates only operate 2 aircraft family, 3 in the future when B787 arrives. You operate 10 different aircraft family.

Qatar didn't fly passengers version of B747, they didn't fly CRJ-900ER, they also didn't fly E-190.

BA and Lufthansa's Fleet looks completely different from your unrealistic airlines. Stop comparing yours to theirs. It doesn't have much similarity.

 

Realistic airlines didn't have their aircraft utilized up to 18.36 hours a day. You are operating a spamline.

 

You are very welcome for being a hypocrite again and again.



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20 hours a Day is normal. You don’t just waste aircraft hours. You need an efficient fleet

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20 hours a Day is normal. You don’t just waste aircraft hours. You need an efficient fleet

 

It's not normal, no real airlines utilize 20 hours of their aircraft. Should give us a proof instead.



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It's not normal, no real airlines utilize 20 hours of their aircraft. Should give us a proof instead.

Actually it is. IRL some airlines get the max utilization out of there fleet. Just happens to be 20 hrs in AE and 10 IRL. Same concept though. By your definition most IRL LCC are spamliners. 






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