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After so much time thinking about doing an airline brand that could theoretically fly in the real world and be attractive at the same time, I have decided to give up on new airline brands to introduce into my gallery.

Some have said Sun Airways and Trans Eurasian Airlines, my two most recent brands, aren't good enough, and have considered dropping out of the livery contests I already entered.

Sadly, I feel that only two existing brands in my gallery (Air Hanoi and Interluft) will remain as I think I've already run out of decent countries to start new ones. Many either aren't developed enough for an airline brand or already have plenty of competitors that render the need of a new entrant unnecessary...

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The best designers on AE do more than try to recreate an "OMG this needs to be 100% realistic" airline brand. You're suppose to have fun doing this, not slave your life over it.


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Think determination and discipline.
Think “whatever has my name on it has a certain quality to it.”

When you make brands, sure you think about realism, but you don’t treat it like it’s a race or competition.
If you don’t finish it in time, you don’t finish it.
If there’s one thing I learned, designs can never be rushed period.
Only stop until you feel that it is perfect.

I’m tired of seeing these “I’m retiring from making liveries” posts. Take the time to explore your creativity and mature your design process. Allow yourself time to do more research so that you can make an even more complete brand.

Y’all need to remember: quality, not quantity; patience is a virtue.


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The best designers on AE do more than try to recreate an "OMG this needs to be 100% realistic" airline brand. You're suppose to have fun doing this, not slave your life over it.

To be honest, I personally don't do anything for fun. Rather, I take everything seriously when it comes to making airline brands as I aim to eventually be associated with a particular one in the distant future, much like how you associate yourself with New England Airlines. By taking my brand to a new level, as in potential success as a real-life airline, I would not only have a decent brand in AE, but also a brand that could hypothetically compete against real world airlines if it was to ever exist. Think of it as an invention that you wish it would materialize someday. That's how I think in this scenario.

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Yeah, when you got frustrated designing something, it means that you're doing something wrong or should stop doing the thing you currently do. I used to do that, but it's just not worth the time.


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Dude. You went through this phase before. We’ve got you out of it. I’m confident we can do it again.

It still seems the main problem with your work is that there’s no heart or soul in it. It’s all still either too generic or too inspired by a certain airline, and it doesn’t look like any passion went into it.

Change that!

Often people rip off things when they don’t put enough time into something to create a more original work. So leave your liveries out for a few days to “ripen” and then once you have that creative energy back, get back on your computer and keep doing it. Eventually you’ll chip away all the imperfections and come up with something better. If you still need more inspiration, take a peak at the gallery and see what people are enjoying. Find out what about them makes it so enjoyable. The colours? The tail? The logo? Take notes. Don’t rip people off directly, but rather see their design choices and change them in a way that fits your livery.

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Dude. You went through this phase before. We’ve got you out of it. I’m confident we can do it again.

It still seems the main problem with your work is that there’s no heart or soul in it. It’s all still either too generic or too inspired by a certain airline, and it doesn’t look like any passion went into it.

Change that!

Often people rip off things when they don’t put enough time into something to create a more original work. So leave your liveries out for a few days to “ripen” and then once you have that creative energy back, get back on your computer and keep doing it. Eventually you’ll chip away all the imperfections and come up with something better. If you still need more inspiration, take a peak at the gallery and see what people are enjoying. Find out what about them makes it so enjoyable. The colours? The tail? The logo? Take notes. Don’t rip people off directly, but rather see their design choices and change them in a way that fits your livery.

In the case of contests, I feel that there's simply not enough given time for me to work at my place as I have to think deeply about my country choice, a name, and a color palette for my airline. Sometimes I have no clue which country to start in, which forces me to do research on which countries have potential for new airlines so I can create my own. I try to be as realistic as possible with all brands I establish.

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In the case of contests, I feel that there's simply not enough given time for me to work at my place as I have to think deeply about my country choice, a name, and a color palette for my airline. Sometimes I have no clue which country to start in, which forces me to do research on which countries have potential for new airlines so I can create my own. I try to be as realistic as possible with all brands I establish.

 

My comment wasn't about contests but if that's the way you'd like to go, so be it.

 

Based on what I've seen, your goal doesn't appear to win a contest, but rather to just be one of the first to submit. That seemed to be the case for Sun Airways; it was the first livery to be submitted, but it was an admittedly lackluster and forgettable livery. You pulled it out of the oven half baked. Same for TEA; it was nothing special and it was dearly lacking. If you want to have a chance at winning, then just refer to my post above. The standards for making liveries are the same no matter the situation.



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My comment wasn't about contests but if that's the way you'd like to go, so be it.

Based on what I've seen, your goal doesn't appear to win a contest, but rather to just be one of the first to submit. That seemed to be the case for Sun Airways; it was the first livery to be submitted, but it was an admittedly lackluster and forgettable livery. You pulled it out of the oven half baked. Same for TEA; it was nothing special and it was dearly lacking. If you want to have a chance at winning, then just refer to my post above. The standards for making liveries are the same no matter the situation.

That's partly because I dread at the likelihood that someone else would take away the country I want to base my airline at and be forced to choose one I don't want. Besides, I already had Sun Airways in my gallery and since it was still relatively new compared to my other brands I chose to go ahead and use it.

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You just need to stop taking this so seriously. You take every single airline on like its got to be real when not many other people do. They work more on their brand and less on whats behind it.

 

You also need to just do random branding for countries and maybe some real world liveries. It improves your skill without needing a massive story behind it. Alot of branders on AE do this. Classy for instance. Its just stuff I threw together and think looks nice but those liveries improve your branding ability in the long run.



 

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You just need to stop taking this so seriously. You take every single airline on like its got to be real when not many other people do. They work more on their brand and less on whats behind it.

You also need to just do random branding for countries and maybe some real world liveries. It improves your skill without needing a massive story behind it. Alot of branders on AE do this. Classy for instance. Its just stuff I threw together and think looks nice but those liveries improve your branding ability in the long run.

As I said before, I don't really like doing most things just for fun.

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if u quit making liveries can i continue your brands

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As I said before, I don't really like doing most things just for fun.


Well, isn’t your being on this website right now your version of having fun..? Just like all of us, you’re on here making liveries and brands instead of doing the work you’re supposed to be doing.

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Well, isn’t your being on this website right now your version of having fun..? Just like all of us, you’re on here making liveries and brands instead of doing the work you’re supposed to be doing.

I make liveries as a side activity, but often don't mention the word "fun" because it has negative connotations with me. Besides, I already know there's a time and place for everything.

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I make liveries as a side activity, but often don't mention the word "fun" because it has negative connotations with me. Besides, I already know there's a time and place for everything.

 

Are you okay? Like, as a human being? What negative connotations do you have with "fun"?






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