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[KINGXyro]

Interestingly, both sides cite the United order for 40 (later 65) 737-700s, in early 2016, as evidence for its positions. According to multiple sources, United was able to buy those 737-700s at a price point of $20-25 million per aircraft, representing a massive discount on the regular sales price for the 737-700.

 

United was also considering the CSeries for that purchase, and in Boeing’s eyes, it had to discount the 737-700 much more deeply than it would have without the threat of Bombardier’s pricing. At the same time, Bombardier views this as an example of rank hypocrisy on the part of Boeing, which also arguably priced the 737-700 either at or below production cost.

In a way, both sides are right. Boeing certainly would not have priced the 737-700s around $20 million if it didn’t have the competition from Bombardier. But that price point is below Boeing’s production cost in all likelihood, and pricing below production costs to win deals (the 747-8 excepted) is a reasonably common practice for both Boeing and Airbus.

 

So I don't know what's unfair here..  Boeing failed to eliminate another competitor from the U.S Market.

 

Now, don't call me an Airbus fanboy but I like Boeing however that doesn't mean I'll be biased about it.

[zortan]

Only 50.01%. It does annoy me that bombardier has now got a minority share in it's own product       

Yes we finally agree on that But, I honestly really agree with this. If airbus wants, they can do whatever they want to it, and they get to because they have more than half of the votes. This is worrisome because many speculate that they bought it because Bombardier is competition, and what worries me is that they could ruin a pretty darn good plane since it's competition and that could be their goal to ruin it.

[Tesla]

Yes we finally agree on that But, I honestly really agree with this. If airbus wants, they can do whatever they want to it, and they get to because they have more than half of the votes. This is worrisome because many speculate that they bought it because Bombardier is competition, and what worries me is that they could ruin a pretty darn good plane since it's competition and that could be their goal to ruin it.

I have to agree. I hope they run it in their profit interests (ie market it properly) rather than run it into the ground. I mean, they can take a lot from it to the A320 NEO