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[Avelo]

Recently I was wondering if there were still any aviation markets in the real world where there's still room for another airline. Any ideas?

[bAnderson]

I think Mobile Alabama and Pittsburgh Pennsylvania are two of the most underappreciated cities by airlines in the US. Mobile has a lot of potential to become a vacation hotspot. Pittsburgh has 100 gates to work with, along with its rather large city. It is also in one of the most convenient places in the US, about an hour or two from almost every major US city in the East. If an airline took interest in PIT, passenger numbers could rise to those of Orlando or Tampa. That along with its three parallel runways and fourth intersecting runway, it really is ideal for more operations. Not to mention the ATW award it received, the only US airport to ever receive it. If United or American or even Delta started hub operations in PIT, they would most likely be successful.

[Pasti]

If United or American or even Delta started hub operations in PIT, they would most likely be successful.

Please do your research; American already has a huge hub in Philly.

[NNR]

Low cost airline based in Greece, connecting the tourist destinations and islands to the rest of Europe at low costs. Now that would definitely make money, seeing as Greece is becoming more and more popular due to the fear of an attack in Spanish resorts and the south of France.

[Avelo]

Low cost airline based in Greece, connecting the tourist destinations and islands to the rest of Europe at low costs. Now that would definitely make money, seeing as Greece is becoming more and more popular due to the fear of an attack in Spanish resorts and the south of France.

Now the question is, which airport would it be based at? Athens is already approaching capacity which could deter new airlines from starting there.

[NNR]

Now the question is, which airport would it be based at? Athens is already approaching capacity which could deter new airlines from starting thete.

Corfu? Rhodes?

[Realm]

Las Vegas should have its own carrier.

[ffxxmz]

Las Vegas should have its own carrier.

Isn't it ULCC Allegiant already?

[bostero2]

It's probably not a huge market in a global scale, but Argentina has just two large airlines (Aerolíneas Argentinas/Austral and LATAM Argentina) plus some smaller airlines. As a matter of fact there's a huge push by the government to bring in new airlines and there are a lot of contenders that have been making route requests and announcing liveries and logos (Avianca Argentina, FlyBondi, Norwegian, Alas del Sur, American Jet, etc...) but none of them is flying for now.

[bAnderson]

Please do your research; American already has a huge hub in Philly.

Well technically AA and DL have hubs in JFK and LGA..

[Avelo]

SAA could have a full-service competitor domestically and internationally by now, especially after Trek Airways and Flitestar have ceased to exist...

[kingoftheskies]

SAA could have a full-service competitor domestically and internationally by now, especially after Trek Airways and Flitestar have ceased to exist...

The South African market is now dying and many African carriers are suffering financially.

[Avelo]

The South African market is now dying and many African carriers are suffering financially.

What if Flitestar and Trek Airways continued to fly today?

[kingoftheskies]

What if Flitestar and Trek Airways continued to fly today?

 

Hardly possible, even if they did not ceased operations in the 90s.

 

If they did, all 3 S.A carriers would suffer even more, given the amount of competition there already is in the domestic S.A market.

[Avelo]

Hardly possible, even if they did not ceased operations in the 90s.

If they did, all 3 S.A carriers would suffer even more, given the amount of competition there already is in the domestic S.A market.

If South Africa's aviation market is in decline, where else in the world is there still room for new premium airlines, other than India?

[bAnderson]

The problem with a new airline is that it takes years to develop. Any new airline would need 10-15 years to become a reputable airline. If there was a possibility of a new airline arising, the current airlines would attempt to choke it out early.

[Avelo]

The problem with a new airline is that it takes years to develop. Any new airline would need 10-15 years to become a reputable airline. If there was a possibility of a new airline arising, the current airlines would attempt to choke it out early.

According to kingoftheskies, if Trek and Flitestar never ceased flying and kept operating today, both airlines and their rival SAA would be under even more hardship due to strong competition in the domestic market. But Trek has primarily operated international routes from 1953 until 1994 in conjunction with Luxair, so how would it be under pressure if it kept flying today? (Flitestar was Trek's domestic subsidiary but didn't start flying until 1991, so SAA's attempt to kill it would be justifiable under your argument.)

[bAnderson]

According to kingoftheskies, if Trek and Flitestar never ceased flying and kept operating today, both airlines and their rival SAA would be under even more hardship due to strong competition in the domestic market. But Trek has primarily operated international routes from 1953 until 1994 in conjunction with Luxair, so how would it be under pressure if it kept flying today? (Flitestar was Trek's domestic subsidiary but didn't start flying until 1991, so SAA's attempt to kill it would be justifiable under your argument.)

I was talking about the subject in general, not this incidence. But you are correct, SAA would attempt to monopolize the market as all airlines try to do.

[Max Devo]

Almost all of Hungary. Malev's bankruptcy left a vacuum.

[Avelo]

Almost all of Hungary. Malev's bankruptcy left a vacuum.

Didn't Wizz Air fill Malev's void?