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[airline55]

well, no one can deny that the issues at Northwest have gotten ugly. Between the financial state of NW (http://www.nwa.com/c...2020061648.html) and the mess with ALPA (http://www.nwaalpa.o...6-01-23.01.html), things do not look good. Now, They way I see it, every group has taken a pay cut (executives included) and it seems that they need yet another round of cuts, and I have to agree with the airline, They have really been hit hard by the industry problems (like high fule prices) and can not afford to operate at the current rate (http://www.nwa.com/c...1720061646.html, http://www.nwa.com/c...1720061645.html, http://www.nwa.com/c...1820061647.html), and the lies being spewed like crazy from both sides (http://www.nwaalpa.o...6-02-03.01.html).

My reasoning, ALPA knows the condition of NW, and they know that a strike would achieve nothing but a chap. 7 shut down if it went forward. This means that they do not plan to use a strike as a tactic to bargin, but as a means to shut down the airline. They know that they would loose their jobs , as would any other person who works there. My view is, if you don't want you jobs (and you would prove you don't want it by striking) leave. Leave and alow others to keep their jobs. If the pilots went on strike, not only would they loose their jobs, but so would ground workers, ticket agents, fight attendents, mechanics, and management (although I doubt they have little emotion for the latter two).

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but if the pilots strike, it would be an illegal stike because the strike would be the result of a court order (eliminating the current contract), not a management decision? Also, couldn't Bush order the pilots back to work with the justification that NW is vital to the economy, and that a strike would force them into bankruptcy?

thoughts?

[Atlantic_Air]

Now, correct me if I am wrong, but if the pilots strike, it would be an illegal stike because the strike would be the result of a court order (eliminating the current contract), not a management decision? Also, couldn't Bush order the pilots back to work with the justification that NW is vital to the economy, and that a strike would force them into bankruptcy?

thoughts?

eh, i'd rather have the administration staying out of aviation business. but then again, they are great at capitalism

[airline55]

well, law is law, and if the strike is illegal...

[penguinboy]

Touchy subject (half my town works for NWA)...but I think NWA is in the dumps. They have a good name, a large fleet, and a large workforce, and I think they should just "start over". What I mean by that is that they should recreate their business plan. One main thing they should destroy is paying Doug Steenland IN THE MILLIONS.

[Banjo Air]

you sir, have no idea whatsoever about executive compensation, likely little idea what would be fair or unfair. y'know, i'm sorry that the staff at NWA took paycuts and all, but seriously 1 flight attendant only accomplishes so much in doing their job (important, albeit, but it's relatively minor). Steenland, like him or not, pulled the company through bankruptcy, shaving 1.8 billion a year in costs and cut 4.6 billion in debt isn't worth a large stock bonus.

i know several ceo's elsewhere getting more for doing less. all steve jobs has to do is say i[Product] and he gets a few million in stock options.

[drv4truk]

Yep, but their is a big difference between a profittable, successful company and one that is going through bankruptcy. Go back and take a look at what decisions were made and why they went into bankruptcy.

[SQ748]

Well, NW should not be ordering new planes if they are in such a dire financial state. They are only digging a deeper hole.

[Banjo Air]

Well, NW should not be ordering new planes if they are in such a dire financial state. They are only digging a deeper hole.

Rock. meet hard place. hard place, rock. Old, non-fuel efficient planes leave little to no room to be profitable or competitive.

oh and NWA for all intensive purposes has reached a bankruptcy court deemed them to have a solid plan and a sound enough basis. Especially considering what trends drove NWA into bankruptcy in the first place...

[SQ748]

hmmmm, when should they be emerging from bankruptcy? I don;t think it will be any time soon.

[EXTspotter]

I thought they already had done.

[Banjo Air]

I thought they already had done.

they are out of bankruptcy.

[penguinboy]

Yes, I do know a lot about executive compensation. I'm not saying his salary should be $50,000, but I do say he shouldn't be earning multi-million dollars until NWA is financially stable. Also, have you seen his house? Minneapolis taxes are high anyways, Lake Calhoun taxes are REALLY high, and he has a huge house on Lake Calhoun.