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[Isa Al]

Hey

 

I have an airline based in South America but I am not able to fly to China or Asia. I mean the range is 11k miles minimum so no airplane can fly. why can't the airplane fly the opposite way to Asia or China that would be shorter? 

 

Or there is no option for the Latin airlines to fly to asia?

[bAnderson]

From Chile? No. You'd have to fly a 772LR with about 3/4 capacity to get there. 

 

IRL LATAM from Santiago to Beijing goes with a 787-9 from Santiago to Frankfurt with a stop in Madrid, then a 747-400 from Frankfurt to Beijing on Air China. So unless you have codeshares, you're not going to Asia.

 

If stops were modeled in-game, I'd expect you to go Santiago-Beijing with either a stop in Honolulu or Guam with a 777 or 747.

[Isa Al]

From Chile? No. You'd have to fly a 772LR with about 3/4 capacity to get there. 

 

IRL LATAM from Santiago to Beijing goes with a 787-9 from Santiago to Frankfurt with a stop in Madrid, then a 747-400 from Frankfurt to Beijing on Air China. So unless you have codeshares, you're not going to Asia.

 

If stops were modeled in-game, I'd expect you to go Santiago-Beijing with either a stop in Honolulu or Guam with a 777 or 747.

 

Oh so I have to wait for the 772LR then. do you think if I increase the C and F classes would help me fly with full capacity? because in that way the Y class will be much smaller but at the same time more revenue from the F and C

[Stevphfeniey]

The game by default shows you the shortest possible route between two points on the globe.

 

If the Earth is about 25k miles around, and it's 11k miles from point A to point B, then the route in the opposite direction will be 4k miles longer...

[bAnderson]

Oh so I have to wait for the 772LR then. do you think if I increase the C and F classes would help me fly with full capacity? because in that way the Y class will be much smaller but at the same time more revenue from the F and C

As an airline you want full seats. On the longest range routes I have seen, even from two huge airports, the demand is not very large. Therefore, you should have a 3-class system for routes within range and one with 1/2 F/C and 3/4 Y.

[konj1]

From Chile? No. You'd have to fly a 772LR with about 3/4 capacity to get there. 

 

IRL LATAM from Santiago to Beijing goes with a 787-9 from Santiago to Frankfurt with a stop in Madrid, then a 747-400 from Frankfurt to Beijing on Air China. So unless you have codeshares, you're not going to Asia.

There are some more direct routes with stopovers, Korean Air has a route ICN-LAX-GRU flown by A330-200.

 

Otherwise, without stops and with current technology it would be too expensive to fly a direct routes.

[bAnderson]

Which way around is shorter, towards Europe or away from Europe?

[berubium]

Which way around is shorter, towards Europe or away from Europe?

Away from Europe if flying to western parts of South America (Chile, Peru, Ecuador, Colombia etc.), they would cross the Pacific.

 

If flying to the eastern parts of South America (i.e. Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Brasilia, Salvador etc.), they would cross the Middle East & West Africa.

 

Interesting to note the difference in route paths between Beijing - Santiago & Shanghai - Santiago though (see links).

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=pvg-scl

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=pek-scl

[LJ Aviation]

just do not bother with it

there will be no demand for that route

or AE allow us to make a technical stop somewhere

like Qantas or Singapore Airlines