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[Isa Al]

Hey

 

Now I am ranked first in a world and there is a player who is competing for first rank made an airline in my airport (  the country I am using doesn't have real competition). The airline only aim is to lower my profit so is that allowed?

[S K Y]

It's not a manly move, but yes, it's allowed.

[Viero]

It's pretty frowned upon, but like Skyswimmer mentioned I don't think there's any actual rule against it.

[Isa Al]

It's pretty frowned upon, but like Skyswimmer mentioned I don't think there's any actual rule against it.

 

It's not a manly move, but yes, it's allowed.

 

 

The player made an airline in my airport and putting planes with much lower prices only the routes I flight so I think it's pretty obvious it's to lower my profit and it really affected me by around 30M a day ( 15 mins )

 

 

unfortunately it seems nothing to do

[S K Y]

The purpose of this game is to run an airline the way you favour it, but there's no real win or lose condition.

Awards, are there to encourage players to challenge themselves, but again, not actually a real achievement.

 

Hang in there buddy, you're probably facing a spoiled and miseducated 12years old who's taking this too seriously.

[Isa Al]

The purpose of this game is to run an airline the way you favour it, but there's no real win or lose condition.

Awards, are there to encourage players to challenge themselves, but again, not actually a real achievement.

 

Hang in there buddy, you're probably facing a spoiled and miseducated 12years old who's taking this too seriously.

I know it's really annoying. as you said the game is for fun but they are misusing it and I can do the same if I want and get my rivals down easily by having airlines in their airport to lower their profit and that actually doesn't take an effort but I won't do such silly things to rank first.

 

I hope in the future to implement any new rules to prevent such cheating ways of getting to the top while other players are working for hours to play fairly

[Coco X]

We had the same thing with Heart Air, I started it at the beginning and another airline started and tried to kill us by pricing routes at $10, but from help from a special someone you know who you are, Heart was saved from bankruptcy so not all is lost.

 

Its likely someone who clearly thinks its funny to put someone out of business and very pathetic in my opinion.

 

Coco x

[Isa Al]

We had the same thing with Heart Air, I started it at the beginning and another airline started and tried to kill us by pricing routes at $10, but from help from a special someone you know who you are, Heart was saved from bankruptcy so not all is lost.

 

Its likely someone who clearly thinks its funny to put someone out of business and very pathetic in my opinion.

 

Coco x

Heart case is different a bit. There were real players in the same airport and that makes the game really cool and competitive but my issue is that a player that his airline is in USA for example made another airline in Lebanon, my airline hub, just to get my airline's profit down and he doesn't really care about playing but just to get my airline down so he can get higher in rank because we are competing for first rank and he's in top 3 players.

 

 

And about heart it will still get better I just came back today and started managing the airlines

[Yuxi]

Now I am ranked first in a world and there is a player who is competing for first rank made an airline in my airport (  the country I am using doesn't have real competition).

 
What you described is not against the rules. It sounds like you want legal protections to keep competition away. However, this is mostly a free-market game, and you're not entitled to a monopoly at "your" airport simply because you're ranked first in valuation.

One can argue that in real life, many countries limit foreign ownership of airlines. But we don't have that concept in AE, so players can start airlines wherever they want (as long as they don't flood routes using multiple airlines).

[Isa Al]

 
What you described is not against the rules. It sounds like you want legal protections to keep competition away. However, this is mostly a free-market game, and you're not entitled to a monopoly at "your" airport simply because you're ranked first in valuation.

 

No I don't mean I don't want competition. I mentioned before too that competition makes the game more fun and without it the game is dead. But what I am saying is that there is a player who has an airline and made another airline recently based in my airport only to lower my profit. His purpose wasn't playing and running an airline but causing my airline to lose money by putting one plane on the route with much lower tickets price so I will lose money unless I lower my prices to almost the half which is lowering my profit too.

 

I am not talking about normal competitions but I am talking about making airlines in the airport of your rival just to lower his profit and the purpose of the airline isn't playing normally at all.

 

I will message you with the details so my point will be clear because here I can't mention everything

[Yuxi]

I am not talking about normal competitions but I am talking about making airlines in the airport of your rival just to lower his profit and the purpose of the airline isn't playing normally at all.

 

That's not against the rules. Maybe limiting some worlds to one airline per player would reduce this behavior. But as far as revising the rules, I don't want to get into the business of judging motives and deciding on a case-by-case basis who's "playing normally" and who's not.

[Isa Al]

That's not against the rules. Maybe limiting some worlds to one airline per player would reduce this behavior. But as far as revising the rules, I don't want to get into the business of judging motives and deciding on a case-by-case basis who's "playing normally" and who's not.

I understand your point and I sent you a private message to clear my point. I am not asking to take actions against him but just wanted to clear my point to you and give you the evidence 

 

Thanks

[Yuxi]

Thanks, I'll look at your PM later. In any case, I'm open to ideas for how we can discourage or disallow this type of strategy (not that I have plans to do so).

[iquit]

Hey

 

Now I am ranked first in a world and there is a player who is competing for first rank made an airline in my airport (  the country I am using doesn't have real competition). The airline only aim is to lower my profit so is that allowed?

You should be thankful that he is wasting his time running a second airline. If he spent the time expanding his first airline instead, he would have overtaken you much sooner. Under the current game mechanics, a Lebanese airline cannot beat an American airline in terms of valuation unless the latter is making silly mistakes like what your opponent is making.

 

 

We had the same thing with Heart Air, I started it at the beginning and another airline started and tried to kill us by pricing routes at $10, but from help from a special someone you know who you are, Heart was saved from bankruptcy so not all is lost.

 

Its likely someone who clearly thinks its funny to put someone out of business and very pathetic in my opinion.

 

Coco x

If you keep invading others' routes and dilute their profit, they will put you out of business soon or later.

 

 

Thanks, I'll look at your PM later. In any case, I'm open to ideas for how we can discourage or disallow this type of strategy (not that I have plans to do so).

 

The current game mechanics already discourage this type of strategy, it encourages insanely expand one single airline at a rate faster than the time the player can allocate to play the game.

[Isa Al]

You should be thankful that he is wasting his time running a second airline. If he spent the time expanding his first airline instead, he would have overtaken you much sooner. Under the current game mechanics, a Lebanese airline cannot beat an American airline in terms of valuation unless the latter is making silly mistakes like what your opponent is making.

 

 

 

 

 

I know it's hard for one single airport to beat multi airports but I tried other countries before and the competition was really so much and time wasting like daily you need minimum 30 mins to check routes for competition and reduce prices so it's really stressful and time consuming that's why I chose Lebanon due to almost lack of competition and I was able to get it to first place but as you said if the others really play well and dedicate time they will beat me easily  but at least beat me fairly and not by making fake airline in my airport to lower my profit.

[AHHC ▲☺▲]

why not... I owned 2 airlines in same game

[konj1]

LOL, number 1 in a world and complaining about competing new company ruining an airport... Tough stuff.

 

I hope the game stays capitalistic as it is, I don't know what all the compassion is about.

When you aim high, this game becomes competitive, not a safe sandbox. If you want a casual peaceful sandbox don't count on high valuation and pick up a reputation trophy if you care about that... Maybe if someone makes a pre-1980s world with pre-deregulation West and/or multiple players caring about big state monopolies like Aeroflot and CAAC, then protection would make sense, but not now. With current rules, how would you choose preferred protected guys who will get all the space to do their stuff? 

 

There must be a competitive element in most worlds. And if you're no.1, destroy your competition if you want monopoly and someone new annoys you (if you're in top 10 it shouldn't be hard to crash a start-up company), or ignore if your position is cool and dominating and your hubs and the rest of network won't feel the presence of an "intruder", either way you can stay on top. If you're going for the gold, it is supposed to be hard and time consuming by default.    But keep it cool, you can work on a few shortcuts to make things faster and easier.

 

 

 

And yeah, if your opponent is in top 10 and competing for no.1, but irrational enough to start wasting time on a new company and not pumping up his probably much better chances with an existing big company, that's probably a good thing for you. If he loses the same time reducing your DOP by 100K and not getting his own up by 100M, the math is simply in your favor.

[SpenCoop]

Isa Al..you talk of playing realistically, but flood your own market...ie. putting 700 flts on a 100 flt market @ 3 times the fare...why are you complaining? (FYI I only operate 1 airline a world..so it's not me doing it..lol)