Pretty much exactly what I drive. 2006 BMW 330xi in black.
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I'd drive this:
Or as a four and a half seater:
The Smart actually has a decent size boot, and in the case of the Up, you can fold down the rear seats and have an extremely practical 3 door 2 seat hatchback with a massive boot. (PS: 3 door looks better).
Smart roadster has plenty of bootspace, VW Up has more when you fold the rear seats and turn it into a rather bulbous 2 seat 3 door coupe.
The only issue with the UP! is that is has less power than my 14 year old Ford Fiesta
The only issue with the UP! is that is has less power than my 14 year old Ford Fiesta
True, but who needs power in the city anyway. Your 14 year old fiesta can't possibly be as economical. The Up! is apparently pretty good fun to drive according to most reviewers. Read this.
http://www.autoexpre...k/volkswagen/up
68.9 mpg! Jeez! Well, I'm not old enough to drive yet, but I'd probably buy one. 63 bhp per ton seems a bit low though.
I can tell you from experience of driving my friends VW UP! that is lacks character completely and what makes me laugh more is how it has less kit than my Fiesta unless you get a top end model and yes, the 63bph/ton is pretty painful, even in the city, its handy to have a few more horses and that, around the 75/80bhp/ton mark is about right to not fall behind and actually be able to use it out of the city
The older Fiesta like mine is packed with character, which is noticeable...even the way its temperamental is just brilliant, plus it will never die if you look after it, meanwhile there's already reports of UP's having engine issues upwards of 80k miles, my fezza has 120k and I don't exactly drive slow and its running fine, and not a single major issue in its history Furthermore, it's willing 1.3 has 81bhp/ton so its good in town and workable on country lanes, and once you've started driving, you'll realise that you do want the little extra "umth" in the country and on motorways to keep up with the pace.
Sorry I went on a bit, just saying my opinion from experience of the two cars
Though, I forgot to mention efficiency, admittedly my car will only just get 40mpg IF I drive carefully but usually it sits around 36mpg by my calculations although the trip computer insists it's 39mpg In comparison, the 68mpg of the UP is not a true MPG, that's in a lab Whatcar test the real mpg by test driving the car and reporting the mpg after 24 hours of normal use. The actual mpg is 48.6mpg which is pretty impressive still so if your simply wanting efficiency, go for the UP!
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My realistic aim for a first car would probably be a mid-2000s Saturn Vue or Saturn Ion or a late-90s Honda CR-V.
Though, I forgot to mention efficiency, admittedly my car will only just get 40mpg IF I drive carefully but usually it sits around 36mpg by my calculations although the trip computer insists it's 39mpg In comparison, the 68mpg of the UP is not a true MPG, that's in a lab Whatcar test the real mpg by test driving the car and reporting the mpg after 24 hours of normal use. The actual mpg is 48.6mpg which is pretty impressive still so if your simply wanting efficiency, go for the UP!
Actual mpg of 48.6 is higher than my family' Lexus CT200h!!! That was claiming 68 mpg, my dad struggles to get past 40 on my school run, which is very hilly, very congested. Both negative factors. On the motorway, we average around 56 mpg, but that's as high as we've ever got without going electric only, which got us all the way up to 89 mpg! But that doesn't count. Also, the "high up!" get 75 bhp engines, which give just over 80 bhp per ton, for very little actual fuel penalty (67.3 mpg vs 68.9mpg, but that also is in a lab).
Or I'd get a reasonably low-mileage Smart Roadster Coupe. The owner of this example claims he can hit 66 mpg!
http://www2.autotrad...=1500&logcode=p
I would buy a Mazda MX-5 instead of the roadster but quite frankly I wouldn't be able to get the massive CO2 emissions out of my mind. Same reason why I wouldn't go after an Elise either. Neither of them has a boot as big as the Smart. And the performance won't be usable unless you go to a trackday in those two, and there you'll get demolished.
Actual mpg of 48.6 is higher than my family' Lexus CT200h!!! That was claiming 68 mpg, my dad struggles to get past 40 on my school run, which is very hilly, very congested. Both negative factors. On the motorway, we average around 56 mpg, but that's as high as we've ever got without going electric only, which got us all the way up to 89 mpg! But that doesn't count. Also, the "high up!" get 75 bhp engines, which give just over 80 bhp per ton, for very little actual fuel penalty (67.3 mpg vs 68.9mpg, but that also is in a lab).
Or I'd get a reasonably low-mileage Smart Roadster Coupe. The owner of this example claims he can hit 66 mpg!
http://www2.autotrad...=1500&logcode=p
I would buy a Mazda MX-5 instead of the roadster but quite frankly I wouldn't be able to get the massive CO2 emissions out of my mind. Same reason why I wouldn't go after an Elise either. Neither of them has a boot as big as the Smart. And the performance won't be usable unless you go to a trackday in those two, and there you'll get demolished.
Firstly, rule 1 of buying a used car: NEVER beleive a word the previous owner tells you, find out the fact by looking at the cars true history and honest opinions of other users of the car, Whatcar? is a very good resource, very factual and honest aswell as Honest John which will highlight every potential issue going.
Must say 56mpg is pretty good even for motorway mileage, pretty sure my mate said his dad's one maxes out at 50mpg on motorway commutes Though he's a s***ty driver so...yeah
The High Up! is very expensive for the amount of car your getting to be honest especially when you look at TPC's Aygo/C1/108 offering and especially now with the budget Dacia Sandero top end Sandero with more equipment than a high up! is still cheaper than a base model UP!
Thing is, your talking first car. A Smart Roadster seems wonderful until you put your foot down and write it off Personally, I'd say (from experience) get a cheap runaround (such as an older Fiesta) for at leats your first 6 months if not first year to get experience becuase no matter how good you think you are the reality is that your going to have a few bumps in your first year so best off doing it in a car that costs pennies to buy and repair I was going to drive my Focus 1.6 Ghia but I'm glad I paid £275 for an '02 Fiesta to get used to the road and all the pricks that are on it in a few months I'll be driving the Focus but for now the Fiesta is great for my use and its taught me to drive a car properly rather than being cradled in my instructors perfect, new, Focus It gives you a feel for the reality of driving and its good for your experience.
Just found this interestingly. Im one of the brave ones since I have a 2007 Alfa Romeo 166, its wonderful when it works but it goes wrong at least once every few months and depreciates like a b*tch. Its also dark grey with a cream interior.......
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