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Well, I offer top notch IFS and IFE in Long Haul.

I pay employees way over averages

My fleet has realistic configurations

BUT

I operate aircraft to the max, having a bad OTR, but all of these costs have to be covered with enough revenue I guess XD

So, I want to ask you, How you make your airline realistic, but competitive?

How you balance your operations?



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It would be impossible. While you're cutting revenues to impress passengers, those spamlines getting revenues from selling food on board. They also pays less, so it's impossible basically.



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Just take some things from UkraJet and a couple of other peoples airlines. 

UkraJet does the following:

1. It operates in a relatively low-competition market.

2.It keeps a limit of 14 hours util on all plane

3. It operates IFE and 3 star BOB IFS on all flights.

4. It avoids ultra-high competition markets unless it knows it will win the price war that will ensue.

 

Changing the base won't really help much right now cos you can't change it by country. 



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I'd suggest going for a smaller than average to medium sized base or even a poor-ish country if you are a beginner to get moolah from a realistic airline. Some examples would be PEN, KNO, HET, LCY, BVA, HRG, SDJ, CEB, DAD, VVO, Kazaqstan, Ukraine, Myanmar, Latvia, Iceland, Cambodia, Bulgaria, Serbia, Jordan or anything else similar.

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Or Ukraine.



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Try Helsinki, it's one of the medium size airport that not many airlines fly to. or you could always try Kuala lumpur, Doha, or Quito.



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Find a country where you can be the only national airline (in a restricted world) and control the domestic market. No competition there and you have a solid basis.

 

Iran and Nigeria are a couple of unpopular countries in this game that also have decent demand.



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I'd suggest even more obscure nations like Zimbabwe or Somalia if you're really looking to avoid competition.


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Same here.  Sometimes, I'll go from either Costa Rica or Trinidad and Tobago, and they work fairly well.



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Or Ukraine.


...i already mentioned ukraine...

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It would be impossible. While you're cutting revenues to impress passengers, those spamlines getting revenues from selling food on board. They also pays less, so it's impossible basically.

I disagree. I share my main hub with a spamline and I'm doing fairly ggood.



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Or Saudi Arabia, like JED or RUH, the distance between another airport on that country (from JED) is only 90 - 950 miles, there is no distance above 1000, so if yuo want operate regional airline, choose it and operate small aircraft to take control domestic routes. The higher gate price the higher demand you get.

The higher demand from JED is to DMM, RUH and MED, 3 HUB in one country with the distance is between 200 - 400 miles, so you have enough hours available to fly another routes, like Qatar, Egypt and many others in Middle East,



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I disagree. I share my main hub with a spamline and I'm doing fairly ggood.

Hub is the worst thing you could do. Tell me, how much percentages of profit you've got every month from your operation?



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To be honest, I am in love with Pakistan. If you take all the Islamabad gates at the beginning of the game (16) you have a monopoly on that market. Islamabad has ridiculously high demand, so that's a great way to monopolize and get your airline running and to a top spot. Then, for expansion, open a hub in Karachi, which gets a lot of airlines, but has huge demand. You can pretty much keep expanding from KHI but there comes a point where it's best to start expanding from Lahore, fill up all the destinations you had from KHI, and then even move on to Peshawar. From KHI, there's almost unlimited expansion, so once you fill up all these Huns you can always just do that.

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To be honest, I am in love with Pakistan. If you take all the Islamabad gates at the beginning of the game (16) you have a monopoly on that market. Islamabad has ridiculously high demand, so that's a great way to monopolize and get your airline running and to a top spot. Then, for expansion, open a hub in Karachi, which gets a lot of airlines, but has huge demand. You can pretty much keep expanding from KHI but there comes a point where it's best to start expanding from Lahore, fill up all the destinations you had from KHI, and then even move on to Peshawar. From KHI, there's almost unlimited expansion, so once you fill up all these Huns you can always just do that.

No you don't. People can always build terminals. Plus, you can only lease 10 gates (unless it is a hub,then it's 25) (-__-)



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I suggest you look at your airline relative to the country size. UIA does not serve all the US routes you have, nor does it have 380s.

 

So its kinda funny that you suggest to this person to spam the piss out of a country like you. For some one that wants to get into realistic alliances, you have to do some research. 

 

Well said.


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I suggest you look at your airline relative to the country size. UIA does not serve all the US routes you have, nor does it have 380s.

 

So its kinda funny that you suggest to this person to spam the piss out of a country like you. For some one that wants to get into realistic alliances, you have to do some research. 

It's designed to fill AE demand because that is what needs to be filled. I have a secret method of getting more profit out of less passengers, and I'm not going to let anyone know what it is. Plus, Ukraine is not me. I usually operate British based carriers, and i'm using my methods from britain in Ukraine. Non-complimentary meals, complimentary snacks, lowish density planes, as well as well serviced IFE. I am telling you nothing else. Asteria will lose to me for this very reason!!



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I suggest you look at your airline relative to the country size. UIA does not serve all the US routes you have, nor does it have 380s.

 

So its kinda funny that you suggest to this person to spam the piss out of a country like you. For some one that wants to get into realistic alliances, you have to do some research. 

Haha, the wisdom of the Communist player.



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It's designed to fill AE demand because that is what needs to be filled. I have a secret method of getting more profit out of less passengers, and I'm not going to let anyone know what it is. Plus, Ukraine is not me. I usually operate British based carriers, and i'm using my methods from britain in Ukraine. Non-complimentary meals, complimentary snacks, lowish density planes, as well as well serviced IFE. I am telling you nothing else. Asteria will lose to me for this very reason!!

 

You do not have a secret method, we are not as stupid as you. If you have some sort of method, it's more than likely already in widespread use.

 

Asteria will also not lose to a spamilicious Ukranian airline that is so awkward it operates A380's out of Boryspil, which would be dead in the water IRL. If you want to be realistic people, have a look at the countries RL airlines. You can also look at the countries airports and see what would be viable, if not incorporated in the countries airlines already. (E.G: A 747-4D service could possibly be viable in Europe, however the convenience of having multiple daily smaller aircraft services attract airlines, whereas in Japan the domestic market is so big it's better to adapt with rather large aircraft, and due to the short routes, can deliver multiple daily flights. Still viable in Europe.)

 

So, like Ross said, look into the nations own airlines and the routes. A380's would never survive in Ukraine, unless it's Emirates with it's 3279826487962785437865215326487291376487527865378154672576543762564392875943986783209893427678046189716 A380's (Slightly exaggerated number there :P )

 

 

Haha, the wisdom of the Communist player.

 

:huh: And what's wrong with being communist? (Taking that you were sarcastic, if not, apologies.)



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You do not have a secret method, we are not as stupid as you. If you have some sort of method, it's more than likely already in widespread use.

 

Asteria will also not lose to a spamilicious Ukranian airline that is so awkward it operates A380's out of Boryspil, which would be dead in the water IRL. If you want to be realistic people, have a look at the countries RL airlines. You can also look at the countries airports and see what would be viable, if not incorporated in the countries airlines already. (E.G: A 747-4D service could possibly be viable in Europe, however the convenience of having multiple daily smaller aircraft services attract airlines, whereas in Japan the domestic market is so big it's better to adapt with rather large aircraft, and due to the short routes, can deliver multiple daily flights. Still viable in Europe.)

 

So, like Ross said, look into the nations own airlines and the routes. A380's would never survive in Ukraine, unless it's Emirates with it's 3279826487962785437865215326487291376487527865378154672576543762564392875943986783209893427678046189716 A380's (Slightly exaggerated number there :P )

 

 

 

:huh: And what's wrong with being communist? (Taking that you were sarcastic, if not, apologies.)

Well remembering He always forced his view on people, I think that terms fit him perfectly. Although that could also be said about "Democracy" which is another terms for Modified Communism.






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