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[Fitch]

 I have a brand new DC-9-50, trying to put it on a IND - LGA route. Bear in mind this is a BRAND NEW Bird, with 140 hours.

 

 When I try to add flights, it tells me there are no aircraft available to fly the route.

 

 So to prevent the obvious answers, as I said it has 140 hours available, the Distance is 658 miles, and the planes Range is 1700.

 

 I had thought it might be the Perimeter rule but it's no flights over 1500 miles, so I'm well within that....

[Hake.]

DC 9-50 needs 7055 feet of runway, which LGA does not have.

[iokeefe]

Runway at LGA is too short, try buying some DC9-20, they have great runway performance.

[Fitch]

Never even thought of that.....

 

 Thanks guys...

[CourtingPsych0]

you got to monitor runways aswell as aircraft performance

[Fitch]

 Ok, so I was willing to leave this issue at this however, I was doing something when I had a realization. Republic flew DC-9-50's into LGA in the 80's....

 

 A quick trip to Airliners.net has proven this.....So where did the runway length used come from?

[Hake.]

MTOW and take off are different things.
Take Concorde... 11056 feet at MTOW, yet it landed on 7000 feet runways routinely.
Take the 77W... 10400 feet at MTOW, yet it lands twice a day in Dublin... at 8650 feet.

[Amtran]

Right now, AE uses MTOW takeoff runs, to my knowledge, that will change in AE4. As it stands, you can't fly 757s into a lot of places they did historically, for example.

[Fitch]

 Ok, so a new twist. I can't setup an IND - DAL Route. The Runway length is more than enough for ANY of my planes, but when I click the show Aircraft button, no planes are showing up.

 

 Love has an 8,800 ft runway. I can't get my DC-9-10's, -40's, -50's or my DC-10-10 show up. Despite 3 of the -50's being idle.

[Hake.]

DAL is still subject to the Wright Amendment.

[Fitch]

You would think, since I knew of the LGA Perimeter, I would remember the Wright Amendment.