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[zipp]

The TransAsia ATR72-600 was operating a scheduled flight from Taipei's Songshan Airport to the island of Kinmen. 

Reports are suggesting that up to 12 people are confirmed dead, out of the 53 passengers and 5 crew members. 

Video has emerged on social media showing the moment the ATR-72 crashing into the river after clipping a bridge and taxi.

 

http://www.9news.com...sengers-crashes

http://www.theguardi...-lands-in-river

[Falcon444]

Wait... Is that actually real?

[S K Y]

That's scary!

[Airboss777]

It's real, & tragic.
http://www.flightrad...-22816/#56f633b

http://www.news.com....q-1227207890689

[vsauce]

bad luck for them, last year they crashed an atr on short final. but from the video, it looks like they experienced a low altitude stall

[TNT88]

Holly Molly! It surprised me that anybody would survive those crash.

[TNT88]

Here is another videos that have higher definition:

[Oliy.]

Lucky it did end up in the river really, If it had smashed straight into that motorway it'd probably not have any survivors..

[Speed Bird]

it looks like they experienced a low altitude stall

 

I'd agree with that.

[Chubby Bear]

What a tragic start to 2015

[TNT88]

Seems like these recent year, lots of fatal air crash happened quite often isn't it.....

[n.x.w.m]

bad luck for them, last year they crashed an atr on short final. but from the video, it looks like they experienced a low altitude stall

 

Engine flameout.

 

RIP to the 23 currently found dead.

[kraspeed]

Seems like these recent year, lots of fatal air crash happened quite often isn't it.....

Statistically, last year is considered the safest in history by the number of crashes compared to number of flights, but with the most fatalities in last several years. There's been around 900 fatalities total in 2015 and more than a half of it were on the two tragic crashes of Malaysia alone.

[Magnusson]

Whoa, wouldn't like to be on that plane. Engine failure seems as the most probable option, considering the last seconds of flight, and the fact that no ice could have formed on the wing or any deformation causing lift decrease.

[Speed Bird]

Whoa, wouldn't like to be on that plane. Engine failure seems as the most probable option, considering the last seconds of flight, and the fact that no ice could have formed on the wing or any deformation causing lift decrease.

 

Engine flamouts do not cause what we've witnessed in that video.

 

From what I can judge, the aircraft appears to be in a stalled state, the cause of which we cannot ascertain. A theory is perhaps a stall induced by the crew as a result of improperly dealing with some form of power loss. What I find intriguing about this theory however is the fact one would expect the prop to be in the feathered position which does not appear to be the case from looking at the footage. You'd also expect a crew to be capable of dealing with the loss of an engine; a dual engine loss is of course a much different situation. If that were the case it may be possible the aircraft was low and the crew were looking to extend the glide and subsequently stalled. 

 

Of course this is all speculation based on observations from the information we have a available.

[TNT88]

Or the plane could be overweight.

[Superman]

^ really...

It looks like a stall to me as well not a engine flameout, clearly you still heard the engine still running before it hit the river

[Speed Bird]

Or the plane could be overweight.

 

Then how would it have got off the ground safely in the first place?

[Boeing 707]

Engine flamouts do not cause what we've witnessed in that video.

 

From what I can judge, the aircraft appears to be in a stalled state, the cause of which we cannot ascertain. A theory is perhaps a stall induced by the crew as a result of improperly dealing with some form of power loss. What I find intriguing about this theory however is the fact one would expect the prop to be in the feathered position which does not appear to be the case from looking at the footage. You'd also expect a crew to be capable of dealing with the loss of an engine; a dual engine loss is of course a much different situation. If that were the case it may be possible the aircraft was low and the crew were looking to extend the glide and subsequently stalled. 

 

Of course this is all speculation based on observations from the information we have a available.

 

Well according to an article I read, its shows the pilot acknowledging an engine flameout..

http://www.usatoday....crash/22842757/

But you know, air transport in Asia is growing so rapidly pilots my be unqualified to fly, and companies like Lion Air, Jet Airways, etc. are hiring so many pilots just to meet the demands. So this pilot may have not correctly comprehended his errors.

http://www.miamihera...cle9271406.html

 

Just wondering, but could these have the same circumstances as the other GE222 airplane crashed in the Penghu Islands (or whatever island it crashed on)? Except this was shortly after takeoff, and that was close to landing.

 

May the 31 dead rest in peace.

[vsauce]

Well according to an article I read, its shows the pilot acknowledging an engine flameout..

http://www.usatoday....crash/22842757/

But you know, air transport in Asia is growing so rapidly pilots my be unqualified to fly, and companies like Lion Air, Jet Airways, etc. are hiring so many pilots just to meet the demands. So this pilot may have not correctly comprehended his errors.

http://www.miamihera...cle9271406.html

 

Just wondering, but could these have the same circumstances as the other GE222 airplane crashed in the Penghu Islands (or whatever island it crashed on)? Except this was shortly after takeoff, and that was close to landing.

 

May the 31 dead rest in peace.

 

GE222 was experiencing bad weather and failed multiple landing attempts.