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Hey guys....okay so heres a good one....or so I hope. Like I said before I'm new to the game and slowly building up my airline right now. My question is this...how much do little plane compare to the big ones? And what I mean is this. I'm currently competing with another airline for a route thats about 1100 miles. Does it really make a diffrence if I buy say a Boeing 717-200 that TURNS ever 20-25 mins...(can't remember) carries about  134 passengers ...or an Airbus that will carry 300+ passengers and turn ever 45 minutes. i mean I get 26 flights out of the 717 and have to buy a few to fullfill the demand but in the long run will the competitor who has an airbus beat me out ? I mean how much does on-time performance matter in these issues? Does it really impact sales and route performance?And would I be better off with a larger plane that takes longer but carries more passengers...??Do I waist more fuel that way??What factors impact on time performance...legroom and time flown? I thought that time flown was the amount of time you've been flying the route but sometimes on a new route that I setup I get an automatic green and is this due to say advertisement? I would think that time flown would be based on the amount of time the routes been up...as in a competitor wouldn't get my ticket sales unless he drastically lowered the prices due to my "time flown/passenger trust factor"...that would be cool...and would allow a new airline unto my route to have to "work" it's way up...I know the games not perfect but..wishful thinking is allowed no?? 

 

 

btw the route that i was working on has a 1500 pax a day load (F/C/Y combined) ...just to give u an idea what I'm working on..with lil' vs big...



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What about a 757-200 or A321?


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As call14 said, maybe a 757-200 would do.  Also, a 737-800 would work or a 737-900ER



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If you can get 717 and don't need the last few miles of 757 range, the A321 / 737-900ER will always make higher profits than the 757. The duel burn per seat can be calculated by dividing the absolute fuel burn by pax number and speed. In this case, assuming densest configs and 717-200 vs. A330-300, the 717 will use about 35 % more fuel per passenger than the 717. (on that note: there's a lot that's better than the 717 in terms of fuel burn.) It will further save you money by using less slots. The downside of using big aircraft on short flights infreqeuntly is the lower frequency reputation. Yet, as reputation does not matter much, you can simply go for the most profitable option unless you care about realism.
Ontimeperformance is affected by the number of available slots and the daily utilisation, but one of the devs might know more about that. Advertisement is supposed to make your time flown rating to go up quicker but don't advertise. It will only cost a lot of money.
Legroom should be quite obvious, time flown should be dependent on the time you've been on the route.

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I'm kinda getting it...but wouldn't I have to buy say a few 757's because of the infrequency they're willing to fly the route? I mean from JFK to miami my 717 gets 25 trips or slots which equal 13 flights a day with 134 pax.equaling 1742...now the demand is for about 15 F 60 C and 1400 Y..I'd have to buy a few 717's to cover that at 134 passengers but how many trips can a 757 do...with turnaround?  Is turnaround what calculates how many trips a plane can do per day besides range? I mean a 737-900(which is only one avail in my game at the moment) does 189 seats with a 300 mile range but a 40 minute turnaround..difference of about 50 pax between the two planes.  . Now considering I could do say 8 flights maybe a bit more with a 757 wouldn't I be spending more buying a few 757's?  and mxax .or any of the guys.....is there a formula I can use to mathematically know how to save money, or how much I will spend per pax where i calculate it before buying a plane....or somehow/way to help me in choosing the right plane for the right job? i mean at 1400 pax a day i could just get two or 3 747's.....lol....how does one  figure out that a 737-900ER (ER is for extended range right?) is better for short flights? or for the job?? MXAX I think you might've miswrote up top when you said " the 717 will use about 35 % more fuel per passenger than the 717. (on that note: there's a lot that's better than the 717 in terms of fuel burn.)' did you mean the 757??



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Oh, sorry, I meant the A330. The A330 is amongst the most efficient aircraft in game.
There is a formula for calculating the profits, after all that's what the game uses. :P To get some rough idea the fuel burn per passenger is best.
Look at the max seats and you'll see that the 737-800 can seat just as many as the 737-900 with a lower fuel flow. That's why I recommended the ER version: it does not only get more range but also an additional exit allowing for up to 220 passengers. A configuration with a high legroom reputation would be something like 20C/166Y.
On a 300 mike flight there is not much gained using 717 vs. 757 because of lower turnaround-times. Turnaround is the time that the aircraft needs between landing and taking offf again.




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