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[Diverskii]

I'm just wondering how so many 0 or 1 year old aircraft flood the market by the end of the game? 

 

I know the Used Market is getting overhauled in AE4 but it seems odd. The system owns all the aircraft, but does that mean people are buying new aircraft, and then selling them immediately?

 

 

For me it just seems as if I can get a brand new aircraft without the 3/4 week waiting period. 

 

[**OLT@22.Hrvatska**]

It's probably everyone getting rid of their idle aircraft that they ordered but decided that its not worth setting up new routes with because of the little time left.

[Stevphfeniey]

Usually towards the end of a world, I just order thousands of really cheap aircraft for great lulz

[Diverskii]

Oh right, all the rich airlines rub it in the faces of the new startups ey 

 

I never understand how, like in R1 now, just 3 years into the game (1958), people have fleets of hundreds of aircraft with hundreds of the latest 707s on order. 

[**OLT@22.Hrvatska**]

I actually managed an airline that's in the top 10 in that world, it's not that hard. All you need is a few tricks and routes that get high profit..

[Diverskii]

I actually managed an airline that's in the top 10 in that world, it's not that hard. All you need is a few tricks and routes that get high profit..

 

Yeah I suppose with practice, I just can't believe after only 3 years someone can be that rich. I tried bonds for rapid expansion but it went badly and I folded. Now I'm trying gradual expansion. But it's sloowww

[Uracco]

Well I earned lots of money in about 2 years

[Diverskii]

Well I'm not even a year old and have 3 DC-7s with 5 on order so we'll see how it goes.

[Pineair]

Think they are planes that have been ordered by airlines that go out of business before the planes are delivered. They seem to release them at random times, I bought 35 747's earlier today and none had details of previous ownership and were between 0 & 2 years old. Always keep some spare cash for these expansion opportunities.

[����Justin����]

What I did is lease humongous amounts of aircraft, yes you will lose money doing that, but I made more profit than I had expected and I'm now offering transatlantic and international flights, due to my leasing "plan". But still, I do wonder how airlines in S1 grow such large in 3 years! I tried everything I increased my reputation, configured into 3 classes, offered in-flight services, fly busy routes, but I can't seem to get in I higher rank, I just get into a lower rank. But my word is that you should just lease lots of aircraft and at least you can survive and make money.

[2ndAcr]

Bin dumps.......you have to watch for them and be fast on the trigger with cash to spare. Mine in R1 is ranked number 4, I bought over 100 planes from the used bin on one swoop.

 

I will lease when I can, but if I see any plane disappear I will pull the trigger and buy what I want asap.

 

Value early game is pure cash, so you will flux in rank big time, once you start buying planes and terminals, you will stabilize in rank and actually start the climb.

 

Don't try to flood 1500 seats on a 2500 pax route, take a chunk of 3-400 and be done with it for now. My rough rule is enough daily profit on the route to cover both gate leases within 3 days time on that route. If you take a smaller bite, you will not be so horribly effected when someone slams a couple thousand seats on it, and they will big time.

 

Watch the last ranks, see who is going belly up soon, slide onto their routes so when they go belly up, you take over the route. I call that the vulture list.

[Diverskii]

My next question is when an aircraft goes out of production, how long do they stay on the used market for? Or do they never go on it once people start retiring them? 

[Stevphfeniey]

Well, often times after an aircraft "goes out of production", at least one person's got deliveries for it until 2025

[ChiJohnAok]

My next question is when an aircraft goes out of production, how long do they stay on the used market for? Or do they never go on it once people start retiring them?

My understanding is that a plane will stay in the used plane market for 6 months. If no one has leased or bought it by the end Of 6 months it disappears.

[rexrex600]

I have over 100 aircraft (in fleet and on order) and I have been in R0 for 1 year (I started about 55 years fm the start) and I'm well in the monehs