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[Duck]

I believe the passenger demand in the pacific islands is laughably low. For example, daily demand in AE between Nadi and Auckland is ~90 pax a day in Y. However, in reality, there are 20 flights a week between these two cities. Also, demand between Auckland and Rarotonga is very low, about 12 pax a day if I remember correctly, when there are actually 16 flights a week. (I am using Auckland because that is where my current airline is based, not sure of the figures from Oz). While I understand you are very busy, it would be nice if you could have a look at this, and it would be much appreciated. 

Thanks

 

(I am happy to do some research into the actual passengers if that would help)

[Sheepy]

Rarotonga used to be decent, about 90Y demand, which, despite being low, made daily narrowbody flights possible. However the last data, err, 'enhancement' resulted in the already low demand Pacific Island airports to become even lower.

 

Basically, the pacific doesn't fit well with the demand model.

 

The demand between Auckland and the Pacific is probably something that needs to be manually adjusted. It's definitely not the only market that would benefit from this.

 

And to those saying "There are 2,000,000 city pairs, have fun finding demand for all of them!", I'd like to point out that most city pairs have fairly decent demand, it's just thinks like SYD-NAN, AKL-RAR, AKL-LAX, SYD-MEL, even HND-CTS which simply don't fit with the demand model we have in place and need to be adjusted

[Moldova96]

This is not something that can be changed, without the way demand is calculated being changed.

[Nexus8]

I like how to cities of 50 k pax a year can have a demand of 1 daily, When In reality it is most likely nobody has EVER flown between them

[Duck]

Yeah, i agree with foxtrident, could there be some exceptions? I'm not asking for all 2000+ tiny airports in the pacific to be overhauled, just a few large hubs. (Nadi, Rarotonga and Apia).

[Keyelem]

There are so many city pairs with an unrealistic demand, but there is nothing that can be done about it at the moment...

 

Anyway, the ''Airport Request'' subforum isn't the correct place for suggestions about the demand calculation, this subforum is only intended for requests about airports.

The correct forum for these suggestions is the main "Suggestions and Feature Requests" forum: http://www.airline-e...ature-requests/

[Duck]

Okay, well this may help a little. There are new(er) figures for the total passenger movements at Nadi. The 2011 figures, which I pulled off a document provided by Nadi Airport are 2,231,172 passengers, not the 1,890,172

 passengers shown on AE, which are the 2009 figures. I am happy to look up other passenger number figures in the pacific and new zealand for you if you want newer data. Sorry, Its taken a while, been on holiday with limited internet.

Thanks

[Northern]

Ill take a look into the is and see check other data sources - To speed up the process please could you provide me a link to your source.

 

Cheers 

Northern

[Duck]

http://www.airportsf..._reprt_2011.pdf

Thats the report I pulled it from, let me know if theres any others you want me to find

[Northern]

I can only find the current AE data within that document, so at current it will have to stay the same

[Duck]

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Thats interesting...

[Northern]

Wasn't that the islands total traffic? And not just Nandis

[Keyelem]

I took a look at the provided document myself; and I can confirm that the current number on AE is the 2011 PAX number;

 

(1,654,362+212,276=1,886,638)

 

2,231,172 is the total amount of passengers on the 15 airports in Fiji.

[Duck]

opps my bad shouldve listened to the experts