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Hello, I am playing in the R0 world and was wondering if anyone could give me some advice on what planes to buy. I currently am leasing a Douglas DC-7 with another one about to arrive on June 3 1955 in game. I also own one Antonov An-2.

 

Is the Ilyushin Il-14M/Il-14P worth buying? I used them once in another world but I got bankrupted by it due to high fuel costs. Also, is it worth getting the Tupolev Tu-144D when it comes out in 1979?

 

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p.s. I currently have $7,317,399.



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Please, do not buy the TU-144! It will bankrupt you in no time :P


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Personally I say if you're going to use the name and branding of an actual airline, you follow the fleet of that airline as closely as possible :whistling:


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Don't, lease aircraft in the DC-7's family. (As in like lease a DC-7 again or a DC-8 but not a Tupolev.)


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Seeing that you operate Iran Air, here's the airline's basic fleet from about 1950 onward:

 

1950s: Basically DC-7s and Vickers Viscounts

1960s: 707s, 727s, 737s

1970s: Some 747s

1979-onward: Basically nothing thanks to the US embargo after the Iranian Revolution

 

Again, I encourage you to look more into Iran Air's history, it's actually quite fascinating


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So basically don't get the Tu-144 and get stuff in the same family as the DC-7. Also, I was not going to get the 747 because I heard someone say that it had high fuel consumption, but nvd. And isn't Iran Air getting some Tupolevs of some kind or another (can't remember which one just right now)? Anyhow, thanks for the advice (not sarcastic in case anyone is thinking that)!



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Don't start buying anything this early, keep leasing and also do not operate less than five of an single aircraft type because the cost is too high. Getting the 747s should be a priority in growing international traffic. They have the legs to do long haul which opens you up to bigger markets. The B737-200 Advs are also nice efficient planes, don't have the 200s or 300s, always get the 200advs. When you move into the 80s, make sure you order the B757s and B767s, these crafts allows you to fly into destinations 3000nm+ with lower demand. Get the A320 series in the 90s, forget the MDs and DCs unless you are desperate of growth. Be sure that when you lease planes, max out the leasing term to 10 years, this lowers the monthly lease quite significantly although it does not impact your profit much, but numbers do add up. Make sure to extend your lease terms when the prices can be lowered and never ever terminate a contract, just buy and sell the planes.


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Don't buy anything to start with. Instead concentrate on leasing a few planes of the same type. DC7 is a good option, but get up to a fleet of 5-6 or so at least, so that maintenance costs are shared across the one type.

 

Maybe sell the AN-2 to get money to lose more DC7.

 

The other planes you mention are ok except for the Tu-144, but again try to expand into other types when you can afford to lease 2-3 rather than just one.



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Again, I'd like to point out that it is of my opinion that if you're going to use the name and branding of a real life airline, you'd better try and match that airline as close as possible :whistling: 

 

And yes, Iran Air does have some kind of deal for something like 20 Tupolev Tu-204s, but with the latest set of sanctions I'm not sure about that.


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I think we should have embargoes in the realistic world. Soviet airlines pre-90s can't buy Western aircraft, the West can't buy Soviets, North Korean, Iran, basically all airlines which origin from countries with historical or present embargoes should only be allowed to buy aircraft from manufacturers from countries without sanctions against their countries.


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But what do you do with licensed aircraft like the MD-90 trunkliner program or russian aircraft produced in Iran?
Anyway, get more DC-7s, then lease/buy, depending on your financial status, 727s and 707s for longer haul. Add some 737s (as sai,d the -200adv is great due to it's idiotically low fuel flow, but the other jurassic versions aren't that bad either) to replace the DCs and expand on smaller routes. Later get the 747 classic, they'll open you new markets and offer quite a lot capacity and especially the SP might be of interest to you. It's range makes it possible for you to fly to the US/south america. Get the A300 too to get a very efficient aircraft for high demand short to medium haul.
But for now stay with An-2 & DC-7, especially to keep maintenance costs low.

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For me the R0 Aircraft...

1950's : Combine the DC-6,DC-7,and Viscount 810. In 1957,Bristol Britannia could be delivered and that's a must have! Remember in 1960's there's a CL-44 Yukon,so you shouldn't order Britannia too much,because could make the CL-44 delivery more longer. Fokker 27 could be considered(still reliable until 1990's!).

1960's : CL-44 Yukon is a best choice of all and a must have. Another one that could support CL-44 is IL-18D and Tu-114. YS-11 is one of the best choice of 50-70 seater aircraft beside the F27. If you want to use Jets,707-320C and 727-200 is good.

1970's : 737-200adv is the best! Beside that in 1970's the 747 are available! Sometimes in a trunk routes,i would like to use this :D

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Ended up selling the An-2 (turns out it was causing me to lose money). I've now got enough money to lease quite a few more DC-7s, DC-6s and Viscount 700Ds. Thanks for the advice!



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Starliners and Dc-7s


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Never buy a concorde! I have had very very bad experience leasing that aircraft!!  :disgusted:  :S  :/



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Concorde is just for the prestige, never get it unless you have >$100 million DOP.


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I old most defiantly agree with Keelung on one

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It really depends on what routes you want to take, however, it is best to keep to minimal families of aircraft. For long haul you might want to use bigger aircraft such as the 747 and vice versa for short haul.



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Trident 3B all the way...........makes money hand over fist and fast. But avoid any route under 1000 miles for max profit potential and hold value for a long time. 200adv for under 1000 miles. DH7 for any route 300 miles and under, not much can match it's fuel flow. Lease the DH7 not buy, depreciation is rough at 20% IIRC. Also Tu114 is a great early long haul that will destroy any jet user on a route if faced with a price war, but watch the runway as it take a long one.

 

CL44 are super money makers. 200adv is good bird. Late game, CS300 is the greatest of all for out to 1600 miles.

 

747 is one of the best overall, not much can match it until the A340 series comes online. And even then it will give them a run for their money. Not much can beat a 747-8i late game though there are a few that come really close.






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