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[lakingsin814]

Chat Forums Settings Jul 9, 20260Cash: $-971,781
Chat Forums Settings Jul 10, 20260Cash: $-971,781
Chat Forums Settings Aug 8, 20260Cash: $-5,344,603

There is some definate problems with this game:
A day is supposed to be 20 minutes of actual time. Last night at midnight was the last time I was on line.. At that time it was Jul 10, 2026 it said that be account was Cash: $-971,781. At 735 am today the program said it was Aug 8, 2026, and my account was Cash: $-5,344,603. That's supposed to be 22 days. NOT 29 days. My airline makes a daily operating profit of $404,126, and has monthly expenses of 14 million dollars. At the end of July, My account would have made an additional $8,486,646. That would have brought my account to $7,515,865. The 14 million would be taken out at that time. Leaving me with a balance of -$6,484,135. 8 more days of operations would increase my balance to -$3,251,127. NOT -$5,344,603. So this program makes calculation and time mistakes.

Here's another thing. How the hell can I possibly be charged $10,239,197 for a month of maintenance when I only have 2 damn planes?

My gate fees are supposed to be $811,268 NOT $1,155,288 like it shows for July.

On my income statement I was charged $1,093,016 in july for "taxes and fees" - What "fees" and "taxes" are they talking about? This is an arbitrary amount of money that the system just decides i needed to be charged. IF there's no explanation for that charge then, it can be whatever amount of money IT decides it wants. No way to check on that.

When i lay off people like MAINTENANCE and others, the system shows me this message:



No Eligible Workers to Lay Off
The selected groups do not have any extra workers to lay off.

But I have more workers than are "required" that means that I CAN do that. Well then, because of that, now EVERYONE gets $7.00 an hour.
The bottom line is that I can no longer play this game.

[Kirkland]

I know this is extremely important and annoying, but please don't talk in all caps, please

Likely you have 2 planes bought off the used market, if not it is definetely a glitch. Looking over the remaining things you've said, I believe you've experienced many glitches. I have also experienced problems with laying off workers, so I can agree with him.

-Kitty

[Delta-Northwest]

For me it appears like you have experienced a month change. As only AE months lasts for 24 days you will get a month change after the 24th every months. And at month change you are charged with maintanaince fees and other costs that have not been payd the last months.


And for you to be able to lay off workers you must set your Reserve percentage to a lower level. As default you have between 5-15% Staff reservers. thefore you will not be able to lay off the reserver workers unless you remove the reserves. Also, you cannot have a lower emplyee numbers than the numbers of employees required.

If you are desperate you can always change the salary of your staff to a lower level. This will probeblary save you some money.

Also you can be charged alot for just 2 aircrafts in maintainance costs if you operate 2 aircraft types. This is cause of base costs which is the primary cost for the respective maintanaince program for the aircraft type. On top of that you have the maintanaince fee`s for each aircraft.

In example the base cost for the 747-200B Is 7,5Mill a month in base costs.

The Taxes and Fees are Income tax, Route fees, Costs to open routes Etc.

Also if you have opened a hub then your gate costs will be doubled at the respective airpiorts.


Based on what you have written here i can see no fault in the game. The economy changes that you have experienced is just normal. And since you have no Airlines operating at this time i cannot see if the reason behind your maintanaince costs was high due to different AC types...

But don`t let this single downside bring you down. Just start again and try to do your best. and if you need help then i am sure that there is several members that would be more than glad to help you out.

[QK Flight Industries]

I'm going to do a comprehensive walkthrough, so my answers will be in bolded blue.

Chat Forums Settings Jul 9, 20260Cash: $-971,781
Chat Forums Settings Jul 10, 20260Cash: $-971,781
Chat Forums Settings Aug 8, 20260Cash: $-5,344,603

There is some definate problems with this game:
A day is supposed to be 20 minutes of actual time. Last night at midnight was the last time I was on line.. At that time it was Jul 10, 2026 it said that be account was Cash: $-971,781. At 735 am today the program said it was Aug 8, 2026, and my account was Cash: $-5,344,603. That's supposed to be 22 days. NOT 29 days. Months in AE3.x are only 24 days for ease of programming, I believe. My airline makes a daily operating profit of $404,126, and has monthly expenses of 14 million dollars. At the end of July, My account would have made an additional $8,486,646. That would have brought my account to $7,515,865. The 14 million would be taken out at that time. Leaving me with a balance of -$6,484,135. 8 more days of operations would increase my balance to -$3,251,127. NOT -$5,344,603. So this program makes calculation and time mistakes. Calculations are correct, you probably didn't realize months are only 24 days.

Here's another thing. How the hell can I possibly be charged $10,239,197 for a month of maintenance when I only have 2 damn planes? Plane maintenance is based by family, then by quantity. As you have closed your airline, I can't tell what aircraft you operated, but there is a large lump sum per month for a family type (e.g. Boeing 757) that increases depending on aircraft size. Then, there is a smaller fee for each individual aircraft that grows as your aircraft ages. It sounds like you operated two widebody aircraft from different families.

My gate fees are supposed to be $811,268 NOT $1,155,288 like it shows for July. I can only speculate what you mean here... perhaps you only calculated one gate at your HQ hub (the airport your first chose) when you pay for five by default? As I said, your airline is closed, so I cannot say for sure.

On my income statement I was charged $1,093,016 in july for "taxes and fees" - What "fees" and "taxes" are they talking about? This is an arbitrary amount of money that the system just decides i needed to be charged. IF there's no explanation for that charge then, it can be whatever amount of money IT decides it wants. No way to check on that. I cannot confirm this with certainty, but looking at my finance sheet, the taxes and fees are based on profit amount and is likely a fixed percentage. Think of it as taxes a business would have to pay in real life (regulations, employee taxes, etc.)

When i lay off people like MAINTENANCE and others, the system shows me this message:

No Eligible Workers to Lay Off
The selected groups do not have any extra workers to lay off.

But I have more workers than are "required" that means that I CAN do that. Well then, because of that, now EVERYONE gets $7.00 an hour. Here's the deal: the number "required" is the bare mininum to operate the airline with no backup. If a worker falls sick, there is a percentage to the right of the number required that allows you to select how much reserves you want for each category of employees. That reserves number adds to the number of employees hired. By default, I believe flight crew and cabin crew are at 15% and everyone else below is at 10%. I should probably note that $7/hr is a great way to kill your employees' morale.

The bottom line is that I can no longer play this game. You can still play the game, everyone has trouble in the beginning. Please, ask for help in chat or in the forums as we will be happy to help you.

I hope this helps. See you in chat, perhaps?

[adityapratama]

Make sure you always have enough money at the end of the month to pay all of your expenses. Usually, when you have negative balance at the end of the month, you'll stay in red forever, unless you make a drastic change in your finance (altering routes, increasing ticket prices for better profit, cuts staff payroll).

Oh, and please don't use caps lock for your topic title

[Dohi]

This game is .... very easy.

I sense that you overthink the whole situation, while in fact, as i have mentioned just now .. this game is super simple and very easy.

Start over your airline, and follow this step-by-step:

1. Choose your base correctly. Do not choose a base that is in the middle of nowhere. Make sure you can afford to fly short-medium aircraft to your destinations and have many options of destinations.

2. Do not jump into overcrowded route (popular routes). Find routes that have no or little competition. This is very important in the beginning of the game, as you need to pile up cash to expand.

3. Start the game with short-medium aircraft range (1800-2500 miles). First year, you may want to keep your fleet in one to four family max. Remember, your aircraft maintenance will be charged by family first, then by the quantity of the aircraft you have. In other words, it doesnt matter that you only have 1 aircraft in each family when you have 4 families. Your charges will be X 4.

4. Utilise your aircraft to the max. 20 hours a day.

5. Do not change the configuration of your aircraft seat. Forget legroom. If you have an A320 with 180 seats .. Hell just cramp it. I have 50 units of 747 flying with 500 seats.

6. Forget IFE ... In the beginning, this will kill your profit

7. But, use profitable IFS (meals, snack, etc). Charge your poor passengers to the max. My IFS is $142 per pax. And it contributes additional 10% of my monthly revenue.

8. Take Bonds. I always take 3-4 bonds each $ 5 million. And use them to LEASE the planes. Do not buy any planes in the beginning. For 5 years, you will only be charged small amount of interests. Hence, after 5 years when your bonds are due, no problem to repay them.
Remember DO NOT let your rating drops to CCC+, then you will be stopped to lease any new planes, until you pay the interests on the following month. Even so, it's ok, the following month after you pay the interests, your credit rating will get better, and you can lease new planes again.

9. Drop your staffs salary to the minimum. The easiest way is pay them 50-60% lower than the market rate. Yes, they'll be pissed, but hey this game is so easy, it wont do any harm to your airline. You can increase the salary slowly after you have gazillions dollar in order to increase your airline reputation.

10. After you have tons of money, start to buy off your lease planes. It will increase the valuation of your airline. And also decrease the monthly lease payment. If you own 100% of your aircraft, your profit will increase further. You also need to buy terminal for your hub, it will save you lots of money. Both measures will increase the valuation and the profit of your airline.

Again, this game is soooooooooo easy. My airlines are always in top 10, one is rank 1 in Rdelta, one is rank 3 in R3.
If you need help on how to overdrive this game. Just let pm me, I'll gladly to help.

[Yuxi]

AE is a very easy game. If you're having trouble, referring to http://www.airline-e...or-new-players/ would probably help.

[Brando]

yuxi its only easy if you know what you are doing

[Yuxi]

You have basically stated how to troll this game

I recommend everything except #7 and #9 to new players myself, so it seems we have different definitions of "trolling" and "playing."