Air NZ, QANTAS, ONEWorld, and Star

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Posted 28 September 2004 - 08:42 PM

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Do u think that qantas (or air nz for that matter) will ever leave ONEWorld alliance (American is part of this alliance for our american readers) and switch to their tranz-tasman rivals one. I mean do you think that qantas would pack up its bags and move to Star, this would be a massive relaxation on the price war over the tasman, qantas would probably pull out its loss-making new zealand venture. It could then focus revenues in to its strong asia market complementing rather than over lapping other Star airlines.

Honestly doesn't ONEWorld need QANTAS more than QANTAS need ONEWorld?

I'll be interested to here any thoughts ppl may have.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 02:31 AM

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I don't think they would. From what I have heard, Qantas is very happy with its codeshare agreements with American. If Qantas where to jump from OW to Star, they would have to change codeshares to United and US (both who are not as financially stable as AA).

A problem also is that United also runs LAX-SYD, a bit of conflict of interests.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 06:14 PM

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true, but think of all the imporvements to the the qf coverage, nd the subsequent increased profits due to reduction in competition. United would surely benefit from this agreement. Also I think it can be a fairly safe bet that United will never go bust however many times it goes into backruptcy, due to the way the American government gives out grants.

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Posted 29 September 2004 - 08:49 PM

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you mean like they did for Braniff, Eastern, TWA, and Pan Am?

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Posted 30 September 2004 - 07:26 PM

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true, but Uniteds gunna use the unstable market conditions after 9/11 excuse until the cows come home.

As u mite b able 2 tell from my name, (i.e. kiwii) im a new zealander, and i don't fully understand wot happened to Pan Am. As far as i'm concerned 1970's films Pan Am is every where, now they're no-where.

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Posted 07 September 2005 - 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by S.A. 13
I don't think they would. From what I have heard, Qantas is very happy with its codeshare agreements with American. If Qantas where to jump from OW to Star, they would have to change codeshares to United and US (both who are not as financially stable as AA).

A problem also is that United also runs LAX-SYD, a bit of conflict of interests.

if qf swaps though, there would also be a conflict of intrest in NZ; QF flies Auckland to Wellington, Christchurch & Queenstown, they also fly Wellington to Christchurch & Rotorua

Re SYD-LAX; from memory, AA files that same route, but with diffrent aircraft

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Posted 05 January 2006 - 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by dyson_151_15
Originally posted by S.A. 13
I don't think they would. From what I have heard, Qantas is very happy with its codeshare agreements with American. If Qantas where to jump from OW to Star, they would have to change codeshares to United and US (both who are not as financially stable as AA).

A problem also is that United also runs LAX-SYD, a bit of conflict of interests.
if qf swaps though, there would also be a conflict of intrest in NZ; QF flies Auckland to Wellington, Christchurch & Queenstown, they also fly Wellington to Christchurch & Rotorua

Re SYD-LAX; from memory, AA files that same route, but with diffrent aircraft

You show me AA flies LAX - SYD. Its only UA and QF that fly that route. Also Ansett had permission to go once daily SYD - LAX before they went under

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Posted 18 January 2006 - 05:05 AM

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true, but think of all the imporvements to the the qf coverage, nd the subsequent increased profits due to reduction in competition. United would surely benefit from this agreement. Also I think it can be a fairly safe bet that United will never go bust however many times it goes into backruptcy, due to the way the American government gives out grants.

When asking if QF would ever leave OW for SA, Its not about what United would get from the move, its about what QF would get from the move... IMO, QF would gain Sierra Foxtrot Alpha however, stranger things have happened in this world...

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Posted 01 February 2006 - 05:02 AM

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You show me AA flies LAX - SYD. Its only UA and QF that fly that route. Also Ansett had permission to go once daily SYD - LAX before they went under

agreed, AA doesn't operated in to AUS?

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Posted 02 February 2006 - 05:22 AM

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nope never had

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QF is fine in my opinion... Nothing has gone wrong and there going high with profits, i dont know much about OW alliance though but from what know its helping out in asia, i think

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Posted 11 April 2006 - 01:35 AM

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OneWorld is not going anywhere anytime soon. Rumor has it that there a few more carriers joining in the OneWorld family within the next few years. Continental was one of those rumored to leave SkyTeam and "supposedly" join OneWorld.

If Continental joins OneWorld, I think it'll be a great partnership between American and Continental since AA is the only US based carrier in the alliance.