45 replies to this topic

[2ndAcr]

Wish we could do something to slow the expansion down to a more realsistic speed. Maybe if any used a/c leased or purchased took a week to arrive at your home base. Maybe a week delay from leasing a new gate to service being allowed to simulate the hiring of staff and ground crew etc. The leasing gate delay could be set for say new operations, if you already have servie there, the delay really would not effect anything because your foundation is already established.

Right now we can open 100 routes and service them all in 1 day at peak performance.

[Airbus A320]

Expansion is too easy, my airline Enter Air had over 90 Boeing 737-400/800s within 6 months. Also, I had majority market share at Warsaw (WAW). Something needs to be done to slow this down, there are far too many aircraft in used market.

[muttley44]

I have noticed a number of very new players having this amazing expansion. This would indicate that this is either a very easy game, or some of the newbies are not as new as their profile suggests. I know that I have covered this in a pm, but also I see that a lot of new people struggle, as seen on the forum. I am just a bit cynical, new player, one airline, amazing expansion!

Chris

[martin7]

Way to easy for any one with basic idea about aviation. My airlines grew to be largest in the country in a short time. One of my airlines offers full services right from beginning with IFE (5*) and IFS(4*) on all flights n still made good money ! Not like there's no competition. AE is way too easy ! Routes go full in the beginning it self and its easy to displace a reputed airline from the market easily. Also earnings from flights looks ridiculously high! Especially the short haul ones! And yeah fuel prices are constant and cheap.

[benjjk]

Well, I don't want it to be too hard, I imagine that would require a lot of time pouring over your routes and finances to have a profitable airline - time which I just don't have! But some parts of this addictive game do puzzle me. Mostly, 5 airlines offering a total of 1000 daily seats, but there is only demand for 300? Surely there are some empty jets - why do they still fly them?

Maybe the answer needs to be only x number or airlines can be based in Europe at one time. Or less airlines in each world (as long as there are more worlds). Some competition is always fun, but it can get ridiculous...

[M4matthew]

Surely there are some empty jets - why do they still fly them?

I call it 'spam demand' - when the airlines lower their tickets to fill the excess seats. There's probably a real life demand for 20 daily seats from Aberdeen to Bournemouth. However if BA put a 747 on the route and sold the tickets for a fiver, they would undoubtedly be filled.

[benjjk]

I call it 'spam demand' - when the airlines lower their tickets to fill the excess seats. There's probably a real life demand for 20 daily seats from Aberdeen to Bournemouth. However if BA put a 747 on the route and sold the tickets for a fiver, they would undoubtedly be filled.

In the real world, yes, so are you saying that this game takes that into account?

I have been wondering about that - whether you can 'create demand' by marketing, cheap fares etc (in game of course)

[ar157]

yep...if theres only say demand for 10pax from ABC-DEF and you put say double daily A380. Lets assume each one holds 450pax each so 900 in total. With 1 buck fares you can probably fill at least 600-700 of those seats

[Sheepy]

With scam ifs, you can profit with $1 fares on these super-short-haul routes, creating an effectively unlimited revenue source.
Ryanair does it...

[M4matthew]

With scam ifs, you can profit with $1 fares on these super-short-haul routes, creating an effectively unlimited revenue source.
Ryanair does it...

Ryanair does it with their $1 fares... plus the $100 'extras'

[andytyork]

I think expansion depends on where you start, Europe seems to have much higher demand, and therefore people make a lot more money, a lot quicker.

[Kirkland]

I believe there is a form of buisiness model "gozilla" airlines, that as soon as they get enough to buy a plane, they do, without consulting their finances. Sadly, this actually works an the airline explodes.

[the DOC]

expansion is just too easy and I do think it is easier to mega-expand in Europe. Once started an airline in LGW and in 7 game years it had a DOP of $100 million and became worth $77 billion with over 1100 owned aircraft, 140 of which were A380s

[Mobeer]

Best I have managed is 222 planes in 13 months, with most of those being obtained in the first 8 months. Just start in a world with planes in the used pool, in a nearly empty country and lease like crazy. That's with auto-set prices, good IFE and IFS.

Ticket prices are high and older used planes are cheap.

[Gevans]

Increase the cost of repairs a little......especially when you spread your airline out over many different aircraft models and engines plus increase the cost of fuel over time so the gas guzzling aircraft become expensive to operate.

This would slow down growth and be more realistic.

[Will101]

gas guzzling aircraft become expensive to operate.

errrm, they already are. Try operating concorde, tu-144s, Yak-42s, Il-96s, VC-10s under competition. I've tried all of them but the tu-144 and all just make losses because they have such high fuel costs. I do however support fluctuating fuel prices eg. if the middle east refused to share oil tomorrow it could be set that fro 2012/2013 fuel prices went really high until 2014. Or possibly the addition of bio engines with a higher cost but much lower fuel costs.