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[natsirt44]

This might help: http://wiki.airline-...title=Main_Page

Additionally, here are some experiences I have made:
-Don't overdo it: In the beginning, try not to lease too many planes at once. Always keep some cash reserves for bad times.
-Stay away from competitors: If you are not experienced, you should open your first flights on routes that are not operated by other airlines yet. Sometimes I even look at how many other airlines have a hub there when choosing a starting airport from the list.
-Build a hub: I found it profitable to start by opening a hub, and concentrating my operations there. This tactic means more demand on your routes because of connecting pax.

Hope I could help!

[alex1154555]

Try to utilize as much of an airport as possible at the beginning if it is possible especially if it is a larger one with a monthly lease in the six digit range. I realized this when I was doing poorly at the beginning and quickly scaled back my number of destinations and just tried to max out the gates I had already leased with the aircraft I already had. Also a good alliance helps with reputation and for connecting passengers.

[mariowebbocious]

addition to previous tips:
- for the first year, if possible, use only one type of aircraft, or one family of aircraft. it will prevent you from paying several expensive base cost of maintenance.
- if possible (in the first three years), use jets, no props, as it will give you faster flight, which means you will have many flight hours left. if you have many flight hours, you can fly to many airports.
- take one or two bond to help you gain money.
- keep an eye to used market to get a good aircraft. i presume you play in this world, which means we're in the middle of the game, which means there are plenty used aircraft available.
- lease aircraft for the first two years, do not buy aircraft yet.

[Alfrenzo]

Don't. Take. Bonds. These give you cash, but limit your growth medium term.

[mariowebbocious]

Don't. Take. Bonds. These give you cash, but limit your growth medium term.

I took bond. And you can see where is Ekor Cincin now.
What matter is: How to manage it perfectly.

Just dont take too much bond.
I usually take only one bond. A $5million bond which will be paid in the fifth year.
And during this time, I only pay in about $30-60k interest per month.
And in the fifth year, I have already $200million in cash.

This bond will be used to lease used aircraft. But not using all of them, maybe in about $2,5-3,5 million only. The rest was used to survive.

[Alfrenzo]

Ekor Cincin has someone who has time to manage.

A342 36C/360Y
B752 24C/198Y
A320 12C/156Y

Seat Pitch. For the A320, BMI has 156 one class with seat pitch of 31"... For the 752, CO used to have it as 16C with 55" and 159Y of 31", and yours is 24/198... For the A342, SAA used 24/224, in which C is 73" and Y is 31-32"... If I did your seating plan, it is REALLY easy to aim for the top of the ladder.

Look at Finnish British in R1. Its untouched for almost half a month, and only 5 routes was added in the past 40 days and see its ranking.

Do note that the person in question is not as active as you and might not pay the bonds in time.

[mariowebbocious]

That is why forbiding someone to not take a bond is somewhat questionable.

Please, someone can always "survive" even if he took a bond.
This is not about seat pitch, darling. This is about taking a bond, isnt this?

I know I have a worst seat pitch.
But currently, who cares? detailed seat configuration in which seat pitch is considered is not implemented yet.
And even Overall Reputation wasnt influenced by this seat pitch issue.

Have you seen my reputation rank in this world?

Well, i actually dont want to talk about my airline, and whoever airline. I thought we're talking about taking a bond.
there is nothing wrong with taking a bond if you have times to manage the airline oftenly.
I dont hate the idea of not taking a bond.
It would be good if someone can survive without taking a bond.
I just dont understand why someone stated to not taking a bond.

I suggested taking a bond because this world has already filled with so many big airlines in which startup airlines should manage it carefully.

[Alfrenzo]

Oh please, rep is nothing. As I said before even my worst-than-your seat pitch had 100% before my planes started to age

Plus, I didn't said I'm "forbiding" someone to take a bond. Where did I said "YOU/I CANNOT AND MUST NOT TAKE A BOND CAUSE I SAY SO"?

Taking a bond means he needs to repay, and he doesn't have the time.

I'm not going to talk to someone who still thinks rep is all-mighty important. If I can survive without bond, why can't you?

[mariowebbocious]

Don't. Take. Bonds.

Which of these are not a command?

Hey, dude, I'm not against people who didnt take bond.
I survive many airlines without taking a bond.
in fact, this world is the first time EVER i took bond since i played AE.
(thats because i played it when the game is already running, so all of my opponents are already rich, so I need to take bond to boost my cash, and thats why i suggest the thread starter to use bond because he might be need a little boost)

and couldnt agree more, reputation is nothing. who does even say reputation is something?
i talked about reputation because you talk about my seat configuration.
from talking about bond, suddenly you talked about my seat configs which you said will survive any game.
I just wanna prove that even seat configuration is nothing because reputation even didnt considered it.
thats example, dude..
i DONT even say reputation is ALL-MIGHTY IMPORTANT.
now show me, which of my state telling that reputation is all-mighty important??

of course, taking a bond means he needs to repay...
what i dont get it is why "he doesnt have the time"??
have you ever take a bond, yourself?
the bond will be paid in the fifth year. I believe every airline will have at least $5million in their fifth year in the game...

just back to the topic, dude.
this thread is about person asking tips how to survive.
everyone gave their own tips, I gave mine, and you give yours.
If the person doesnt want to use my tips, that's OK.
I am nothing to lose, AT ALL.
but when i try to comment about your tips (in which somehow contrary to mine) why did you start to talk other things?
I was just sharing my OPINION about taking a bond.

for God's sake, if you dont like it, just leave it and share your reason.

So you're not going to talk to someone who still thinks rep is all-mighty important? who is it? well i'm not.
wrong number, buddy.
I never think reputation is all-mighty important.

[natsirt44]

You two fighting isn't helping him to get tips, you know!

[Yuxi]

For new airlines, I recommend:

1) fewer aircraft types (keep to 1-2 families)
2) more flight hours (maximize aircraft utilization)
3) spend money on leasing more aircraft, don't waste it on IFE/IFS

Everything else is secondary at this stage.

[Superman]

well the admin have spoken

[Superman]

Don't. Take. Bonds. These give you cash, but limit your growth medium term.

Alfrenzo... bonds are good to take in the beginning because they give cash to get more planes and you should take about 2 of them for your credit doesnt mess up

[Shaq]

I dont have much experience her in AE, but for God's sake, dont take bonds!

[Superman]

For God's sake, take bonds!

[mariowebbocious]

LOL.
still fighting about bond?
I give up.


I'm not against people who take bond, and I'm not against people who dont take bond.
I appreciate both of them.
But from my experience in AE:

"Nothing is wrong with taking a bond."

[Shaq]

Everyone will have a different opinion about bonds. You will have to figure out whats better for you

[mariowebbocious]

Everyone will have a different opinion about bonds. You will have to figure out whats better for you

couldnt agree more.